The Voynich Ninja

Hi CheZhenChina; you would be interested in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., which is exactly what you are asking about above (albeit the other way around!).

(13-12-2018, 02:52 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi CheZhenChina; you would be interested in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., which is exactly what you are asking about above (albeit the other way around!).

Hi David,

Thanks for the information.

In China, there was once upon a time a similar system to Arabize Mandarin Chinese, that is, to write pronunciations of Mandarin Chinese (though not Modern Standard Mandarin) in Arabic script. It was called You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

I haven't seen any more news about Ahmet Ardiç's deciphering efforts.

He was dead certain it was old Turkish and was making a trip to Turkey to seek the help of others in decoding it, but a year has passed and there hasn't been anything more that I'm aware of.

I haven’t been hearing any update, either.

Considering that they were so certain about the VMS being Old Turkish, it would be great if they could share some information about their progress.

They want to publish in the Ön-Türk Akademisi dergisi (Pre-Turkish Academy magazine), from its You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.:
(Automated translations, slightly improved)
March, 23
Researcher Ahmet Ardıç wrote to the Pre-Turkish Academy Magazine.

Quote:We have been working for many years on the Voynich manuscript, which has been shown by many researchers as one of the 10 mysteries of the world. We also made our own transcription of this writing, which has not been seen anywhere else. We first put out that this writing was written in Turkish language with its evidence about 2 years ago. This manuscript and the subject has millions of followers around the world. We have had close to 11000 GLOBAL FOLLOWERS IN ABOUT 1 years after news of our work and various publications, such as CNN International (London) and metro-News (Canada). Of course, the quality of those who are interested in language matters more than the number of people who follow our posts or our posts. We don't want to have any remote or close interest in language science who are looking for Arabic or Persian roots in every turkish word he looks at. We will introduce this issue to the world, but in doing so, we will also be selective about who to share the issue with in our own country. It is so-that the Turkish culture and language have been conscious and planned for a long time. We have not been hasty until today because we want the study of this handwriting in the hands of qualified groups, and we have tried to take a remote look at who and what groups are investigating the history of the Turkish language in turkey. So we're not hasty, but we're worried about being picky.

We wish that the first article about this in turkey will be published in the magazine of pre-Turkish Academy. Unless the magazine management is interested in the issue and sees it worth publishing. Because this group is special. In our opinion, this group is a group of experts, researchers and subject men who match our goals most and do the most intriguing work. When we say it's a family business, and none of our family members, including myself, have finished the Turkish language or historical department at any university. I've been systematically investigating these issues since 1992 Our attached work is an introduction to this issue as a small part of our many years of research. More will come.

Also, it's not only about this 600-Year-old handwriting. The subject is completely linked to the language we call pre-Turkish language. The Alphabet, which has not been seen anywhere else in this writing, is just one of the alphabet that our ancestors created. With this alphabet, we will also show you how we read thousands of years of writings. If anyone here wants to take a quick look at the outcome, I mean, if anyone wants to see the result in the alphabet, instead of reading long-long, they can look at the results of the alphabet transcribed, words and sentence reading, instead of long-read the alphabet transcribed, words and sentence readings .

We presented our work with different sizes and examples of reading and sentences to their interest in some universities and-or meetings, which we were invited to in turkey and abroad, along with various examples of words and sentences reading, and we saw that our offer also created excitement. However, there is yet no awareness of the importance of this writing in our country. It may have played a role in this that we are selective, but mostly when it comes to Turkish language, it is not to announce the subject, but we have the feeling that they may have died in a manner of being overlooked by being on the contrary. We also had various verbal attacks while doing these things. However, despite everything, we will not give up on collecting and research examples of the history of our language.

If an alphabet transcribed gives reading in several different examples, you will not be asked if that transkripsiyonun works correctly. However, the most question we receive from various parts of the world is the question of whether or not those who study Turkish language will accept our reading. So we are kindly asked if you are not a man of this issue, so other than you are the one who says this handwriting is Turkish. It's not very right for us to answer that question. We have already said this writing is Turkish and we have put out its evidence. However, with this transcription we do, and if you look at our reading, we expect you to give the best answer.

Sincerely, Ahmet Ardıç on behalf of "ata team Alberta Canada",
<turkicresearch@gmail.com>

Google translation:

Quote:We have been working for many years on the Voynich manuscript, which is shown by many researchers as one of the 10 unsolved mysteries of the world. We made the transcription of an unprecedented alphabet from this writing. This writing is written in the Turkish language, and with evidence of the first two years ago we put together. This manuscript and issue has millions of followers around the world. Our work and claims have been followed by many Western newspapers and various broadcasting companies such as CNN International (LONDON) and Metro-News (CANADA). Of course, the nature of the people who are interested in language issues are important rather than the number of people who follow our articles or publications. We do not want to have a close interest in what we look for with the linguists who pursued the search for Arabic or Persian roots in the Turkish word. We will introduce this issue to the world, but in doing so, we will be selective about who we will share the issue with in our own country. Of course, Turkish culture and language has long been conscious and planned under attack. We are in the hands of a qualified group for the study of these manuscripts we did not want to act hastily and to this day the history of the Turkish language in Turkey who have tried to investigate the how and which group of remote inspection. So we're not in a hurry, but we're worried about being selective.

We wish to publish in the pre-Turkish Academy magazine the first article on this subject. Of course, if the magazine management is interested and interested in the issue. Because this group is special. In our opinion, this group is a group of experts, researchers and subject-matter people whose goals are the most relevant and most engaging of our goals. We are not a family business and none of our family members, including myself, have completed a Turkish language or history at any university. I have been researching these issues systematically since 1992. Our annexed work is an introduction to this topic as a small part of our long-standing research. More will come.

In addition, the subject should not be considered about this handwritten only 600 years old. The subject is fundamentally related to the language we call the pre-Turkish language. The special alphabet in this writing is similar to the alphabets created by our ancestors. With this alphabet we will show you how we read thousands of years of writing. Here, if you want to look at the results immediately, ie, the introduction and development of the long-long read instead of reading the alphabet transcription, and reading the word and sentence in the sense that this transcription is working with the examples of those who want to see the result of the study, alphabet transcription, word and sentence readings before the sections can look at.

Our study, with different sizes and samples, we are invited in Turkey and abroad Some universities and in-or meeting, we presented subjects with various words and sentences read samples to relevant and in our presentation we saw that create excitement. However, there is no awareness of the importance of this writing in our country yet. Perhaps our being selective may have played a role in this, but we often felt that when the subject was a Turkic language, the people concerned could have been in the same manner as ignoring the issue but ignoring it. We have been subjected to various verbal attacks while doing these things. But in spite of everything, we are not going to abandon our research and collect samples of our language history.

If an alphabet transcription allows reading in many different examples, it is not asked whether the transcription works correctly. However, the most common question about this subject from various parts of the world is whether the people who work on Turkish language accept our readings or not. So you are not the subject of this issue with us politely that the other manuscript for you in Turkish is there, he said. It is not right for us to answer this question. We already said that this writing is in Turkish and we have revealed the evidence. However, if we look at our readings with this transcription and we do, we estimate that you give the best answer.

Sincerely, Ahmet Ardıç & "ata team Alberta Canada",
<turkicresearch@gmail.com>

Thank you very much, nablator.

You are really good at gathering information online and surprising me! :O

(01-04-2019, 09:40 AM)ChenZheChina Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you very much, nablator.

You are really good at gathering information online and surprising me! :O

Information is surprisingly easy to find in the digital age.

For example, there are 4 or 5 Cathar manuscripts that Morten St George somehow failed to find. Just testing: is he reading other threads ?

Has anyone heard from these guys lately?

This is from the video description:

Quote:Currently, A formal paper of the philological study was submitted to an academic journal in John Hopkins University.

Can someone confirm whether their research has actually been submitted, and if so, what was the response?

Here is an update. Not very informative, in my opinion.

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I think it would be cool if it turned out to be Turkish, but they haven't released enough information yet for us to really evaluate their findings.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.