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Okay I'm done, good luck JKP

(11-12-2018, 03:14 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Okay I'm done, good luck JKP

Pursuing investigations into the mysteries of the VMS is clearly not for the faint of heart because it leads to conflict with traditional beliefs in every direction.

My theories about the VMS were forced to change over the past two years and they may very well change again. But I would just like to point out that every time a new theory is resolved, either pro or con, it brings us one step closer to the truth.

(04-11-2018, 04:42 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The letter "a" is one of the most common letters in all languages and very common in Romance languages.

The sound "a" is one of the first sounds a baby makes and thus words like mama baba/papa are common to hundreds of languages and yet you have paired up the letter "a" with one of the rarest VMS characters.

JP, I'm glad to see that you appear to be one of few people still posting in this forum because I am looking for an expert on medieval handwriting to proofread a new addition to one of my essays. It's in response to your complaint that my earlier suggestion about VMS glyphs to Latin letter conversions does not provide sufficient opportunities to convert the glyphs to the Latin letter "a". I fully agree with you on that point especially considering that the letter "a" appears to be the most frequent letter of 13th century Spanish. As always, I turned to VMS marginalia for guidance on where to find more a's than any other Latin letter:

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ON NAMES AND NUMBERS

In addition to the marginalia we have already seen, we find marginalia at the top of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. which we will discuss in Part II of this essay. Other marginalia include the names of months which were written in Latin letters next to zodiacal drawings in the astrology section and, in the bottom right hand corner of scattered pages, we find quire numbers ranging from one to twenty. A quire is a group of folios (the front and back of a page) within a manuscript that are folded together one inside another. Quire numbering is not something we would normally expect to find inside a manuscript so surely, with these numbers, the author of the marginalia is up to another one of his tricks.

Folio numbers, also marginalia, were entered into the upper right hand corner of the right-handed pages. As a general rule, efforts were made to avoid overwriting a VMS drawing or VMS text when inserting the folio numbers. The number "17" on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. touches a drawing that is itself marginalia, so there is only one exception to the rule with regard to original drawings and text:



It seems the author of this marginalia, for some unknown reason, wanted to draw our attention to the number forty-two as it was easy enough to move the number a little to the right or left as done everywhere else. During the 13th century (there is reason to believe that VMS encryption was invented in or near the city of Toledo circa the year 1250), the number 42 did in fact appear frequently in the literature of Spain and Southern France: the mystical name of God had precisely 42 letters. It came in two versions:


and


With or without the spaces, however, there appears to be no obvious way of connecting these 42 letters with the alphabet wheel on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. because the number 42 does not intertwine well with four series of a 17-letter alphabet. They add up to 68, but if we were to imagine a space between each series, the total would come to 72. And it just so happens that even more popular than the 42-letter name of God was the 72-letter name of God sometimes referred to as the 72 names of God.

Each of the 72 names is comprised of three Hebrew letters drawn one letter from each of three consecutive verses of 72 letters found in Exodus. Fortunately, we do not have to figure out how to convert these Hebrew letters to the Latin alphabet because it was already done for us in the medieval literature, in three similar versions, variants noted:

1: h. t. o. e. r. o. r. a. b. a. l. a. y. q. c. l. y. s. t. a. l. g. a. a. o. w [or n]. o. s. v. l. a. r. y. t. c. e. k. r. p. f. y. o. m. e. m. a. n [or u]. a. r. e. l. a. t. e. v [or d]. a. t. o. n. o. n. a. o. y. l. e. o. t. s. y. n. a.

2: h. t. o. e. x. o. r. a. b. a. l. a. y. q. c. i. y. s. t. a. l. g. a. a. o. w. o. s. v. l. a. r [or t]. y. t. c. e. k. x [or s]. p. f. y. o. m. e. m. a. n. a. r. e. l. a. t [or c]. e. v [or t]. a. t. o. n. o. n. a. o. y. l. e. o. t. s. y. m. a.

3: h. t. o. e. x. o. r. a. b. a. s. l. a. y. q. c. i. y. s. t. a. l. g. a. a. o. n. o. s. v. l. a. r. y. c. e. k. s. p. f. y. o. m. e. n. e. a. u. a. r. e. l. a. t. e. d. a. t. o. n. o. n. a. o. y. l. e. p. o. t. m. a.

Note that a couple of the manuscripts were not printed until the 17th century and therefore the decoders of the VMS may have played some role in modifying or publishing them. Also note that the medieval texts indicate that these strings of letters operate around a circle, which seems to be exactly what we are looking for. And, unlike Hebrew which runs from right to left, the Latin letters are said to run from left to right, but observe, however, that the 5th thru 8th letters of the first string of 72 letters, in reverse order, become a.r.o.r., which reminds us of the first word of the Rosetta Stone link:



This word was followed by a second word of four letters and in the first string above, right to left, there remain four letters to reach the beginning of the string. Maybe it is just a coincidence, maybe not. But there are other indications that the VMS decodes right to left and that the direction of the output must be manually reversed.

Years ago, a linguistics expert determined that each line of VMS script functions as an independent unit, and hence we can assume that each line should also have less than 72 VMS glyphs so as to be completely covered by the name of God. The EVA character count on the four lines of our Rosetta Stone are 69, 64, 76 and 72, respectively, so only three of the four are covered. Note that 76-character line includes the EVA word aiir and now look at this extract from one of the wheels (not the alphabet wheel) on f57v:



There you see it: the EVA aiir functions as a single character or sound, and, no doubt, there may be other combos of this type involving the glyph that looks like a backslash (\, EVA "i&quot). Thus, all VMS lines to be decoded should contain no more than 72 characters so that all VMS glyphs including blank spaces can acquire a Latin letter during oscillations of the wheels.

Before moving on from here, note that the 72-letter name has been connected with:

i. Roger Bacon of the 13th century to whom, in the 17th century, the 16th-century decoders attributed authorship of the VMS apparently as an evasive tactic, and

ii. John Dee who has been accused of everything ranging from writing the VMS page numbers to selling the VMS to an Emperor, but who, in the late 16th century, may have really participated in the publication of the VMS prophecies.

Our all-critical page of wheels (f57v) is also marked by what seems to be a quire number in the bottom right-hand corner where we find a mysterious number "5". But this cannot be the 5th quire because You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. lies between the 7th and 8th quires, and an earlier page is already marked as the 5th quire. Here you see our mysterious number 5 followed by, for comparison, the markings for the 5th and 15th quires:



The first number "5" is written in the handwriting style of the 16th century whereas the next two depictions mimic the handwriting style of Roger Bacon who wrote in the 13th century (one can only imagine how the experts wish to explain handwriting of the 16th and 13th centuries in a manuscript carbon-dated to the 15th century!).

A major discrepancy between the 5's of the 13th and 16th centuries is that the latter has a horizontal bar across the top. So, in addition to why is the author of the marginalia trying to allude to quire numbers at the bottom right of f57v, we need to ask: why in the world is he trying to draw our attention to a bar?



Well, it turns out that we do in fact find bars on the wheels of the Merkabah. And the middle wheel, our alphabet wheel, has a double bar. Curiously, we also find that a double bar (in physical appearance) is used for one of the quire numbers:



Here the 11 stands for undeci, the "m" stands for "m", and the "9" stands for the letters "us" (Roger Bacon wrote Opus as "Op9"), giving us the Latin undecimus, meaning eleventh. Do you know on which page we find these markings for the 11th quire? If you guessed on f72v, you would have guessed correctly. The author uses the bars to draw our attention to the 72-letter name of God!

The 9 abbreviation in the 11th quire, however, looks a little different than the 9 abbreviations seen elsewhere:



The first 9 abbreviation here comes from a Roger Bacon letter, followed by 9's from the 9th, 10th and 11th quire numbers, followed by the letter "n" found at the end of the word "ubren" from the marginalia on f116v. Question: Is the 9 in the 11th quire number really a 9 or is it an "n"?

The letters "mn", of course, are an abbreviation of the name michel nostradamus allowing us to conclude that the 72-letter name is the key to decoding the stars prophecies. Before you laugh at this, note that the marginalia on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. gave us the name "mich" which is short for michel in the same way that "mike" is short for michael. 



We find this marginalia in the middle of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the quire 11 m9 page), next to a depiction of Libra the Balance. Here's the point: in the VMS prophecies incorporated into Nostradamus, "Octobre" is the only month that is directly named.

Of course, the reason for replacing the o of octobre with an ē merits investigation: the earliest publications of the prophecies when viewed in light of subsequent revisions reveal instances of confusion regarding the vowels.

The zodiac section of the VMS inexplicably begins with March (Pisces) on whose backside we find April (Aries). Both sides of this folio display naked women sitting in circles around the respective zodiac symbol. It is immediately followed by another April (Aries) folio (with Taurus on the back) but on this folio the people (which now include both men and women) are fully clothed. All other zodiac folios display only naked women and there is only one naked-women page for each month. It therefore seems plausible that the clothing folio (there is only one of them) was inserted only to alert us to two Aries.

Among the thirty-nine prophecies attributed to Solomon, signs of the zodiac are nowhere to be found except that the word "Aries" makes not one but two appearances! To view, follow the links for III-57 and III-77 above.

ON LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS

If anyone is still trying to decode the VMS, it might be foolish for him or her to ignore the great name of God in view of indications that it is needed to decode the VMS prophecies.

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As you can see, JP, there are far more letter a's than any other letter in all three sequences of Latin letters. Hope this is what you were looking for, Morten

Quote:Morten: Our all-critical page of wheels (f57v) is also marked by what seems to be a quire number in the bottom right-hand corner where we find a mysterious number "5". But this cannot be the 5th quire because You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. lies between the 7th and 8th quires, and an earlier page is already marked as the 5th quire. Here you see our mysterious number 5 followed by, for comparison, the markings for the 5th and 15th quires:

Morten, that's not a number 5. It simply wasn't written like that in any medieval or early Renaissance script.

It is most likely the letter "g". A number of scribes wrote "g" by writing a "y" shape and then adding the crossbar. I have posted examples on another thread.


But it's not 5. I haven't seen a 5 written like that in any manuscript. You are correct that the number in the middle pic (that looks a bit like a modern "7") is the number 5.

(18-02-2019, 07:01 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Morten: Our all-critical page of wheels (f57v) is also marked by what seems to be a quire number in the bottom right-hand corner where we find a mysterious number "5". But this cannot be the 5th quire because You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. lies between the 7th and 8th quires, and an earlier page is already marked as the 5th quire. Here you see our mysterious number 5 followed by, for comparison, the markings for the 5th and 15th quires:

Morten, that's not a number 5. It simply wasn't written like that in any medieval or early Renaissance script.

It is most likely the letter "g". A number of scribes wrote "g" by writing a "y" shape and then adding the crossbar. I have posted examples on another thread.


But it's not 5. I haven't seen a 5 written like that in any manuscript. You are correct that the number in the middle pic (that looks a bit like a modern "7") is the number 5.

Thanks JP. I have amended my essay to indicate that the number 5 is "disputed". I was working on the basis of the horizontal crossbar which, as seen here, was introduced in the 16th century:



In my opinion, the figure on the bottom right of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. closely resembles the middle 5 of the 15th century with a horizontal crossbar being added. That's just fine for me because I am arguing that the intention of the marginalia author was to draw attention to a bar.

I see an isolated number "19" (no accompanying letters) on the bottom corner of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and an isolated number "20" (no accompanying letters) on the bottom corner of f103r. Other than the "g" on f72v, do you find an isolated letter on the bottom corner of any page?

Morton, they didn't add a crossbar to that style of five and I have NEVER seen one with a sharp hook like that, especially on two of the corners. I've looked at thousands of folios in thousands of manuscripts and I have sampled thousands of examples (tens of thousands).

It does not look like medieval 5. It DOES look like medieval g or y with a macron.

I've posted examples in another thread, but it's not an easy thing to find with search.

I don't have time to look up who wrote y-with-a-macron like that (it's very late and I haven't had any sleep), but I glanced through my files to see who wrote "g" in this style and almost all of them were from between 1400 and 1433 and, interestingly, mostly from France (one is thought to be from France or Leipzig), one from near Stuttgart (c. 1433), and one from the Tirol (c. 1460).

So the time period is consistent with the style of quire numbers and the radio-carbon dating.

This is just glancing through, not an exhaustive search.

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(18-02-2019, 12:48 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't have time to look up who wrote y-with-a-macron like that (it's very late and I haven't had any sleep), but I glanced through my files to see who wrote "g" in this style and almost all of them were from between 1400 and 1433 and, interestingly, mostly from France (one is thought to be from France or Leipzig), one from near Stuttgart (c. 1433), and one from the Tirol (c. 1460).

So the time period is consistent with the style of quire numbers and the radio-carbon dating.

This is just glancing through, not an exhaustive search.

JP, We seem to agree that whatever it is, a 5 or a g, it has a macron (bar) which is really all I care about. For all those other instances where you found a g that looks like that, were any of them isolated letters g? If so, what was the meaning or purpose of this isolated g so that we can determine it fits in the context of f57v?  As usual, JP, you are technically correct but one should also consider motive and purpose. Here we are dealing with an author who is trying to provide us with decoding information yet deter the Inquisition. Things are not normal.

Note that the macron (bar) of the 5 can join with the macron on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (which has pointers to the alphabet wheel on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as previously discussed) to allude to the double bar on the alphabet wheel and that the macron of the 5 can also join with the macron over the e of octebre on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to allude to the double bar on the bottom right-hand corner of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the 11th quire number). Thus, it might not be necessary to assume that the 5 is a number or anything else.

(18-02-2019, 12:09 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Morton, they didn't add a crossbar to that style of five and I have NEVER seen one with a sharp hook like that, especially on two of the corners. I've looked at thousands of folios in thousands of manuscripts and I have sampled thousands of examples (tens of thousands).

It does not look like medieval 5. It DOES look like medieval g or y with a macron.

I've posted examples in another thread, but it's not an easy thing to find with search.

JP, I think I got it: under the macron of the 5 on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. we find neither a number nor a g. I think it's meant to be the Hebrew letter Lamed, ל . My logic runs as follows: the numerical value of Lamed is 30, and if we add that to the 42-letter name of God (recall the blatant overwrite on f42r) we get the 72-letter name of God which is alluded to via the double-bar quire number displayed on f72v. I think it's virtually certain that we need to insert those 72 Latin letters around one of our wheels. Little by little, we might be getting closer to decoding this thing!