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words in the leaves of ms LJS419 f18r Posted by: MarcoP - 13-11-2016, 12:44 PM - Forum: Codicology and Paleography - Replies (16) UPenn Lawrence J. Schoenberg MS LJS 419 is a XV Century Italian herbal, possibly from Veneto. I just noticed that the leaves of the plant illustrated You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ("fugana"?) contain letters. It seems to be the same words repeated on each leaves. It seems to be clearly readable in the top left leaf: "uon" I would say. Any idea of what this could mean? Color annotations come to mind, but "uon" does not seem to me to be like any Italian word for colors. I think the plant could be the Eastern plant that You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. calls "fagara d'Avicenna" (tentative idea, of course). Actually, the name of the plant reads "sup[er]ana]", from the text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., it's clear that the first letter is an 's'. It corresponds to one of the plants in the Alchemical herbals: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Attached Files   f18r.jpg (Size: 173.52 KB / Downloads: 65)   Idea-just spitballin' Posted by: Anonymous - 12-11-2016, 06:11 AM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (7) Hello everyone.  I'm was thinking what if the person who wrote the VM wrote it whilst looking in a mirror? Has anyone here looked into this line of thought? When I write in my journal, I sometimes like to write backwards and I know this way of hiding information is used by various people through out history- a very simple way of hiding information. So, perhaps he created a code using various Romani dialects and then transcribed the using a mirror to write them backwards, or upside down, or maybe both?   1433 and more numbers Posted by: stellar - 12-11-2016, 05:10 AM - Forum: Imagery - No Replies After some time of going through the VMS I found many numbers.  Have fun and another possible date.   The root of the plant at the top right of f89r1 is animal-shaped Posted by: MarcoP - 11-11-2016, 10:10 PM - Forum: Positions we can agree upon - Replies (11) Statement: The root of the plant at the top right of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was drawn to suggest an elongated animal. Explanation: The head of the animal is represented in profile, in the upper part of the root. An eye and the mouth were drawn. The base of the stem of the plant corresponds to the mouth of the animal. [NOTE:  the original statement was "The root of the plant at the top right of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was drawn to suggest an elongated animal with forked tail".  In the comments, it was pointed out that the forked tail might be two secondary roots. So I removed the reference to the tail.] Attached Files   f89r1_tr.jpg (Size: 65.09 KB / Downloads: 104)   Roots of plants in f33r, f89r1, f101v2 include depictions of anthropomorphic heads Posted by: MarcoP - 11-11-2016, 03:43 PM - Forum: Approved blocks - Replies (20) 1) The roots of the plant in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. include depictions of two You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. heads. 2) The roots of the second plant of the bottom row  of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  include depictions of five anthropomorphic heads. 3) The roots of the fourth plant of the bottom row of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  include the depiction of an anthropomorphic head. [This thread follows You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Trying to accommodate the suggestions of Anton, David et al.] Attached Files   33r.jpg (Size: 91.73 KB / Downloads: 51)   f89r1.jpg (Size: 51.52 KB / Downloads: 72)   f101v2.jpg (Size: 25.06 KB / Downloads: 62)   Considered as visionary art Posted by: Charles Packer - 10-11-2016, 02:33 AM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (16) Excuse my dropping in from out of left field, but I read in Nature last week a review of a new book about the manuscript. Now I've been studying Rene Zandbergen's gorgeous website devoted to it. Has anybody ever suggested that the VMS is no more (or less) than a prodigious piece of what nowadays we call outsider or visionary art, that happens to include a faux script as part of its invention? If not, I'd be glad to elaborate on the notion, drawing on my background in psychology and art appreciation.   Please count the number of Voynich Words in this Paragarph Posted by: stellar - 08-11-2016, 07:41 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (6) If you don't vote in this poll, I will count it as you don't know.  If you count outside of the answers being higher or lower, I will count it as a null.   Please vote as I'm looking to gain some insight into the text and you all being highly smart with the VMS I need your partnership and this is what this forum is for. Results will be released in two weeks.   Spaces Posted by: Anton - 08-11-2016, 01:03 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (12) The question is often discussed whether spaces in the VMS are real spaces or not. In his You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Bennett specifies that space is the most frequent character in the languages that are considered there (Western European languages mostly). Interestingly, I have never thought of a space in that way before reading the book. I decided to check whether this is true for Voynichese. I did a very brief check (less than 600 character long - first and fourth paragraphs of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in Takahashi's transcription) for a trial indication - and it seems that it is. The space (represented by the dot in the transcription) is ranked first, accounting for 17 and 16% of the total, respectively. I added a space to the end of each line except the last line of a paragraph. I also included "titles" in the count. I suspect this is the sort of a check that must have been performed before me. Are there results for a more solid body of the text than two paragraphs? D'Imperio does not count spaces, and neither does the "Voynich Reader" tool. Do the results speak in favour of the assumption that spaces are spaces? It's 3am in Moscow, so I'm not sure right now   bathing architecture in f78v Posted by: MarcoP - 07-11-2016, 08:31 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (50) I stumbled on this illustration from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Rudolf von Ems’s World Chronicle, Regensburg, Bavaria, Germany, about 1400–10 The windows of this wooden sauna (?) reminded me of those in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I would be interested in seeing more parallels for the interesting "architecture" in the Voynich illustration. Attached Files   getty_ms33.jpg (Size: 371.71 KB / Downloads: 427)   Numbering 'Recipes' Posted by: Emma May Smith - 05-11-2016, 12:47 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (19) Has anybody ever devised a numbering system for the paragraphs in Quire 20? I know that we can refer to paragraphs by page number and paragraph number, but what I want is a way of referring to a specific paragraph easily. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. p4 is hard to remember, but Recipe 46 would be a lot more memorable. I would like such numbers so I can easily draw parallels and links between them. I'm not certain they are recipes, but it is reasonable to suppose the are the same kind of thing, whatever that may be. If the answer is no I will make a system myself, but I don't want to replicate the work somebody else has done. First Previous Next Last