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Posted by: Voynichgibberish - 27-09-2020, 03:11 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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The VMS is a copy of several books from the Latin Vulgate Bible:
Yet in scrambled form
The Schinner PDF regarding random walks comparing the Voynich Manuscript to several languages was a real eye opener for me. I decided to investigate a Zipf's law for the VMS and and several books of the Latin Vulgate and I was astonished. The Voynich and the Vulgate books were very similar if not parallel with Zipf's Law frequency distributions for each other. My choice of these books from the Bible had something to do with the imagery and themes from the VMS and what the stories in those books told. So then what does this tell us about a possible copying mechanism for VMS during the early 15th century, it's a routine out of the Vulgate itself.
This however, does not confirm that the Voynich text is legible, yet it does seem to fit the Latin alphabet distance length for the VMS available glyphs. What I propose is that each Latin word represents some Voynich vord which is not ordered or that fits the exact length of that available Latin word. And this would occur for the copying of every Latin word to a vord except on a very rare instance.
For this to work here are the protocols which help make this happen during the earthy 15th century. The scribes and monks from the Vatican who were most familiar with the Latin Vulgate Bible who had committed the scripture to memory would have been assigned to this project.
My only idea what purpose the Voynich Manuscript would serve the Vatican, Scribes and Monks would be a memory device for scripture. If you could guess a line of scripture from the VMS and see if its exactly right for an aspiring Monk or Scribe this would be a sort of test.
Also if you are wondering what all the fuss is about, because as you see the Zipf frequency is not exactly the same for the VMS and the several books out the Vulgate which I refer to. All I can say is that some of it would be due to loss of translation and invented vords that had nothing to do with the Vulgate Bible. If you look at it now through this lence then it would be obvious for such an undertaking as a copy and mistakes would come in too; now the near 1 to 1 Zipf's law distribution for the VMS to several Vulgate books should be a shocker for you.
If not try this with other texts and see if you can get a distribution which approaches the same curves and see if there this close.
The Protocols of the VMS Copy from the Latin Vulgate Bible
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- The VMS is a copy of several books from the Latin Vulgate Bible. The books are Genesis, Proverbs, 1 John, Songs of Solomon, Ecclesiastes and Jonah.
- Vords don't equal the length of the Latin words even when copied from the Latin words & the Vords Glyphs do not maintain any order resembling the characters of that copied Latin word
- The same Voynich Vords are always used for the same Latin words
- A Zipf's frequency of the six Latin Vulgate Bible books already mentioned is approximately close to the Zipf's distribution of the Voynich Manuscript at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for the token frequencies.
II
A Separate List outside the Voynich Manuscript
- The Voynich Vord would be placed next to the Latin word after processing along with a check mark and would receive another check mark if used again.
- The list would be kept in a hierarchy.
- The use of the partial vord "4o" equals four tokens and or characters.
A Latin Vulgate Bible Pdf I'm using:
Here is the comparison for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and my stats with several books from the Latin Vulgate.
Code: est 799
qui 540
non 427
eius 322
autem 289
cum 280
quod 253
quae 251
sunt 221
eum 200
Deus 200
super 167
quam 142
terra 140
filii 138
mihi 134
terram 127
enim 122
quia 120
Dominus 119
suum 119
dixit 116
tibi 113
sicut 111
illius 110
Iacob 106
quoque 106
ait 105
tuum 99
mea 98
tui 96
eam 95
sed 94
nec 93
hoc 93
ego 89
Ioseph 88
Abraham 88
suo 86
tua 85
nomen 82
meum 80
genuit 80
eos 80
quoniam 79
quid 78
erit 77
suam 77
per 76
omnes 76
patris 73
pro 73
ergo 72
dixitque 71
quasi 70
ipse 70
terrae 70
post 68
dicens 67
Dei 67
vero 65
ille 64
filium 63
respondit 63
suis 63
nos 62
mei 62
suae 62
erat 61
Isaac 59
tuo 59
dies 59
cumque 58
inter 57
haec 57
eorum 57
Esau 56
ibi 56
meo 55
cor 55
vir 55
Domini 55
homo 55
quo 55
sub 55
nobis 54
ecce 54
sua 53
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sui 53
sum 52
sit 52
malum 51
die 51
vobis 51
coram 50
eis 50
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pater 49
sic 48
meam 48
fratres 46
usque 46
Sep-46
viri 46
filios 46
dedit 46
omni 46
Chanaan 45
propter 45
Abram 44
tempus 44
vitae 44
esset 44
vos 43
Domino 43
tuae 43
igitur 43
atque 43
domus 42
uxorem 42
quis 42
sibi 42
patrem 42
fili 41
omnis 41
fratrem 40
contra 40
ubi 40
iuxta 40
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tuam 39
anima 39
verba 38
tempore 38
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esse 38
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via 37
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quos 37
illi 37
Deo 37
annis 37
animam 37
sapientia 36
omnem 36
ita 36
dux 35
locutus 35
tuus 35
quando 35
fecit 35
Deum 34
apud 34
venit 34
ante 34
cui 34
erant 34
Aegypti 33
Noe 33
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manu 33
Dominum 33
quibus 33
semen 33
corde 32
rex 32
iustus 32
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illum 32
bonum 32
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itaque 31
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illa 30
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Laban 29
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sapientiam 27
Israhel 27
Rahel 27
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Loth 27
hii 27
vidi 27
suos 27
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iusti 26
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egressus 26
frater 26
qua 26
diebus 26
Adam 26
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hominum 25
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spiritus 25
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oves 20
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Abimelech 19
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sumus 19
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eas 19
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Sarra 18
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cordis 18
18-Dec
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scientiam 17
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ore 17
isti 17
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iste 17
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Domine 16
unde 16
Aegypto 16
Pharaonis 16
Nahor 16
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soror 16
Cain 16
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mortem 15
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Pharao 14
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posuit 14
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Hierusalem 13
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verbum 13
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oris 13
sermones 13
itinere 13
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nolite 13
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puteum 13
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Sychem 13
Sarai 13
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Ruben 12
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Rebecca 12
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Ismahel 12
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isto 11
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Iona 9
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initio 9
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scientia 9
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Lia 9
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veritatem 9
pretium 9
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Ephron 9
Heth 9
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illos 9
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duces 9
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venerunt 9
Seir 9
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Pharaoni 9
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populi 9
vester 9
spiritum 9
tolle 9
Iafeth 9
Ham 9
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Lamech 9
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una 9
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fons 9
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maris 9
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aquarum 9
Filium 8
filioli 8
Filio 8
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egestas 8
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Gessen 8
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Liae 8
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Agar 8
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Thare 8
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Abel 8
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Ionam 7
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ira 7
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Oolibama 7
Emor 7
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Galaad 7
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Syriae 7
sermonibus 7
ista 7
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amicus 7
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Rebeccae 7
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Bersabee 7
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uxore 7
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consurgens 7
moriar 7
illuc 7
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utrum 7
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tria 7
Sarram 7
vidisti 7
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vadam 7
occursum 7
habitabat 7
reges 7
Sodomorum 7
Segor 7
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iter 7
sororem 7
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Haran 7
Aran 7
descendit 7
venite 7
populos 7
Eber 7
Sodomam 7
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vivit 7
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malitia 7
homine 7
Seth 7
accepit 7
custos 7
foribus 7
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audivi 7
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fecerunt 7
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viditque 7
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viventem 7
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scripsi 6
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Patrem 6
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sponsa 6
gratia 6
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Manasse 6
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Eliphaz 6
Sebeon 6
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Levi 6
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Basemath 6
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Dan 6
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Arfaxad 6
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6-Nov
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Filius 4
Christus 4
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mittit 4
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correptio 4
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sectatur 4
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confidit 4
voluntas 4
suscitat 4
declinet 4
iusta 4
labiorum 4
reddet 4
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messe 4
aestate 4
iugiter 4
novissima 4
pedibus 4
posside 4
ignominia 4
agunt 4
perversa 4
custodiet 4
dat 4
semitis 4
infernus 4
sapientior 4
hederam 4
vota 4
navis 4
tempestas 4
guttur 4
aperi 4
murra 4
mel 4
Libani 4
quaesivi 4
lilia 4
adiuro 4
caritatem 4
gutturi 4
genae 4
iram 4
considerat 4
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dissipat 4
incidet 4
dextera 4
placent 4
odium 4
amore 4
intellegit 4
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peccator 4
potestatem 4
ventum 4
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time 4
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vae 4
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viventes 4
impietatem 4
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memoria 4
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res 4
flumina 4
ossa 4
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iudicabit 4
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Thamar 4
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Ana 4
Zara 4
Core 4
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Zabulon 4
Isachar 4
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plenaque 1
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quique 1
deiecit 1
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transfigat 1
trahatur 1
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agnus 1
bos 1
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ornatu 1
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augmenta 1
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suscipiat 1
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unigenitus 1
tenellus 1
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mansuetis 1
deludet 1
inlusores 1
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imiteris 1
iniustum 1
moliaris 1
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vales 1
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valent 1
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torcularia 1
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honora 1
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describe 1
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legis 1
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turbarum 1
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astutia 1
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sciendam 1
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periit 1
cresceret 1
laborasti 1
doles 1
irascor 1
mori 1
petivit 1
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urenti 1
calido 1
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vermem 1
hedera 1
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accideret 1
sibimet 1
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deprimeris 1
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deum 1
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iret 1
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euntem 1
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Ioppen 1
Amathi 1
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auscultant 1
habitas 1
ducenti 1
Pacifice 1
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cedrinis 1
argentea 1
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nixa 1
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granatorum 1
mustum 1
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ducam 1
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deosculer 1
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servavi 1
vetera 1
nova 1
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palmae 1
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vincta 1
capitis 1
Carmelus 1
Damascum 1
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vallatus 1
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artificis 1
fabricata 1
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iunctura 1
pulchri 1
choros 1
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videbis 1
intueamur 1
Sulamitis 1
Aminadab 1
quadrigas 1
floruisset 1
inspicerem 1
convallis 1
nucum 1
genetrici 1
occultis 1
cortex 1
avolare 1
colligat 1
pascatur 1
aromatis 1
areolam 1
quaeremus 1
declinavit 1
cedri 1
bases 1
fundatae 1
marmoreae 1
columnae 1
crura 1
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hyacinthis 1
aureae 1
tornatiles 1
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rivulos 1
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corvus 1
nigrae 1
palmarum 1
elatae 1
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candidus 1
adiurasti 1
nuntietis 1
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liquefacta 1
transierat 1
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pessulum 1
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lavi 1
induar 1
expoliavi 1
noctium 1
guttis 1
cincinni 1
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pulsantis 1
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melle 1
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fluunt 1
hortorum 1
primis 1
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fistula 1
crocus 1
nardo 1
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signatus 1
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pulchriora 1
mammae 1
crine 1
pardorum 1
leonum 1
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Hermon 1
Sanir 1
Amana 1
macula 1
collem 1
pascuntur 1
armatura 1
pendent 1
clypei 1
fragmen 1
eloquium 1
coccinea 1
tonsarum 1
laetitiae 1
coronavit 1
diademate 1
Salomonem 1
Sion 1
constravit 1
media 1
purpureum 1
ascensum 1
aureum 1
argenteas 1
Salomon 1
ferculum 1
nocturnos 1
timores 1
ensis 1
doctissimi 1
ambiunt 1
pulveris 1
fumi 1
virgula 1
desertum 1
genetricis 1
introducam 1
tenui 1
vigiles 1
quaeram 1
vicos 1
circuibo 1
surgam 1
noctes 1
Bether 1
hinulo 1
parvulas 1
sonet 1
ostende 1
maceriae 1
caverna 1
petrae 1
speciosa 1
florent 1
grossos 1
putationis 1
transiit 1
propera 1
fenestras 1
despiciens 1
parietem 1
saliens 1
quoadusque 1
stipate 1
floribus 1
fulcite 1
ordinavit 1
vinariam 1
cellam 1
sedi 1
silvarum 1
convallium 1
campi 1
flos 1
cypressina 1
laquearia 1
cedrina 1
domorum 1
tigna 1
floridus 1
lectulus 1
pulcher 1
Engaddi 1
botrus 1
fasciculus 1
accubitu 1
murenulas 1
adsimilavi 1
curribus 1
equitatui 1
pasce 1
abi 1
sodalium 1
incipiam 1
vagari 1
cubes 1
pascas 1
custodem 1
fusca 1
pelles 1
memores 1
laetabimur 1
curremus 1
trahe 1
dilexerunt 1
effusum 1
fraglantia 1
osculo 1
osculetur 1
errato 1
observa 1
audiamus 1
meditatio 1
libros 1
faciendi 1
requiras 1
pastore 1
data 1
concilium 1
defixi 1
altum 1
clavi 1
stimuli 1
plenos 1
utilia 1
parabolas 1
enarravit 1
redeat 1
rota 1
recurrat 1
argenteus 1
funis 1
rumpatur 1
plangentes 1
ibit 1
capparis 1
amigdalum 1
florebit 1
timebunt 1
carminis 1
volucris 1
molentis 1
vocis 1
humilitate 1
ostia 1
claudent 1
foramina 1
inminuto 1
molentes 1
otiosae 1
nutabuntur 1
pluviam 1
stellae 1
creatoris 1
voluptas 1
amove 1
arguentur 1
venerint 1
tenebrosi 1
meminisse 1
oriatur 1
fabricator 1
praegnatis 1
ratione 1
austrum 1
effundent 1
imbrem 1
repletae 1
portabit 1
diviti 1
cubiculi 1
secreto 1
detrahas 1
oboedient 1
epulentur 1
faciunt 1
pigritiis 1
luxuriam 1
vescuntur 1
beata 1
pergere 1
pessimus 1
inanis 1
Word Count Total 5308
Python Code for Ziph Distribution:
Code: import re
from operator import itemgetter
frequency = {}
open_file = open('c:\python37\LV.txt', 'r')
file_to_string = open_file.read()
words = re.findall(r'(\b[A-Za-z][a-z]{2,9}\b)', file_to_string)
for word in words:
count = frequency.get(word,0)
frequency[word] = count + 1
for key, value in reversed(sorted(frequency.items(), key = itemgetter(1))):
print (key, value)
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Posted by: geoffreycaveney - 26-09-2020, 10:12 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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This post is a follow-up to the "VCI" alphabetic interpretation of the script of the Voynich ms text, based on a verbose cipher analysis of the script. I posted about my VCI system You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and later modified it into a form I call "Slavic VCI" as described You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., all of which I attempted to summarize You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
The following table presents the 25 most frequent "vords" in the Voynich ms text, first in their standard EVA transcription form, and then in my "Slavic VCI" alphabetic interpretation. Please note, for example, in line with the verbose cipher analysis, that EVA [aiin] and [ain] = Slavic VCI <o>, EVA [ol] = Slavic VCI <z>, EVA [or] = Slavic VCI <w>, EVA [qok] = Slavic VCI <n>, etc., and EVA [y] is treated as a null character, marked as Slavic VCI <#>.
The table then presents both Upper Sorbian and Czech words, suffixes, and syllables that appear similar to the Slavic VCI forms. For many of the Czech words it is also possible to include their rankings on a modern Czech word frequency list, which one can find You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Finally of course an English gloss is presented for each Upper Sorbian / Czech word or morpheme.
Naturally the correspondences are not perfect in all cases, but I find the number and proportion of very close resemblances striking. It is most difficult to be precise about the distinctions between the numerous sibilant letters and phonemes in these languages: s, z, š, ž, c, č, ć, etc. Now if it were written in literary Czech, which is well known for its phonemically precise alphabet established in the early 15th century, and if we knew for certain that no diacritical markings had faded over the centuries in the copy of the Voynich ms that we have today, then we would indeed expect to see great precision in all of these details in the script of the ms text. But if on the other hand it were written in a dialect of Sorbian, which had little or no written history at that time, and if some diacritical markings in the ms may possibly have faded over the centuries, then a certain level of imprecision in the indication of these sibilant phonemes in the readable ms text that we have would be more understandable.
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Posted by: geoffreycaveney - 24-09-2020, 07:13 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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I'm sure I'm not the first person to consider this idea, but one way to deal with the difficulty of analyzing the ubiquitous vord-final glyph EVA [y] is simply to treat it as a null character. That is to say, perhaps it has no phonetic content whatsoever. Maybe it's a word-divider, or maybe it's something else. Perhaps the author simply liked the way that glyph looked as a very common medieval Latin ms suffix (and sometimes prefix) abbreviation, and decided to use it to end (and sometimes begin) words or syllables or whatever the vords are, wherever he pleased.
This analysis would greatly increase the variety of possible vord endings in the Voynich ms text. In most languages words and syllables can end with more than just a small handful of letters and phonemes.
I'm curious what kind of statistics Koen's and Marco's verbose cipher analysis would produce for h2 conditional entropy and h1 entropy, if all the [y]'s are simply disregarded throughout the ms text?
For those who are curious, I took a modified version of my You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., which following Rene I should call an alphabetic interpretation rather than a transcription, and applied the reading of EVA [y] as a null character. I have marked it as <#> so that it is still clear exactly where these nulls are in the text. Also, in this particular version of my modified VCI interpretation, I have focused on the possibility of a West Slavic reading of the text (Czech, Polish, Sorbian, et al.), so the modifications of VCI have been made with such languages in mind. They include [d]=<c>, [od]=<h>, isolated [o]=<ch> (voiceless velar fricative /x/), [or]=<w> (in Polish and Sorbian a certain type of Slavic "l" sound is pronounced /w/), [al]=<as>, [am]=<ás>, and [ain]=<o>. These are all minor changes in the details of the phonemic interpretation.
I have selected the first "recipe" in the "Recipes" section, the first four lines of folio page f103r:
<[P]jecas rjc# #péj#Pi# be# #srje# mé# mas rjec# #rjcas co dz cas c#>
<co rjet iPjic# casd# Bjec# Perjz jeP al bi# ras sté# ral o d jec#>
<#rjco rjét jeb# idas jec# itj# w wz do jas b tal b j#s>
<#jec# nec# dec# né# de# icalz sb# jecal as#>
I find it curious that the first word <[P]jecas> rather resembles a widespread Slavic form meaning 'you (sg.) bake': Czech "pečeš", Upper Sorbian "pječeš", Lower Sorbian "pjacoš", Polish "pieczesz", etc.
This is just one word of course, but the more general idea of EVA [al] = Slavic VCI <as> = 2nd person singular verb ending may possibly apply to a number of vords that appear to be rather appropriately spread out throughout these lines: <mas>, <#rjcas>, <cas>, <ras>, <idas>, <jas>. In several cases it is easy to recognize similar-looking Slavic forms, such as "maš" meaning 'you have' and "říkáš" meaning 'you say'. Naturally the phonological details may vary depending on the language and the dialect.
This Slavic reading and interpretation is of course highly speculative, and this is only a very preliminary rendition of just four lines of text. But the main thing I find interesting here is the more natural appearance of the text when EVA [y] is simply treated as a null character.
Geoffrey
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Posted by: Voynichgibberish - 24-09-2020, 12:15 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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A case for Gibberish and no one should suffer anymore by the hands of the Voynich Author
![[Image: random-vms-schinner-conclusion.jpg]](https://frenchvoynich.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/random-vms-schinner-conclusion.jpg)
Anyone reading this please have mercy on me for passing any judgments upon the Voynich Manuscript, as I know this is a contentious topic for everyone involved. Over the years I've looked at the manuscript's text searching for any meaning whatsoever. I have run dozens of frequency analysis on several languages and compared it to the Voynich Manuscript to no avail. I even compared it to classical and modern ciphers and I could not fetter out a rational input and output cipher with languages which resembled normalcy of its kind. The output just became garbled so to speak. Lastly I began to think this was a created language and it only held meaning to the owner or a group, but that's when I woke up after reading the Random Walk Pdf by Schinner.
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Here is some bullet points to ponder before going down the path of a literal translation of the VMS:
- VMS contains a low use of 1-2 tokens
- NO evidence for punctuation in the VMS whatsoever.
- Tokens repeat geometrically to often compared to languages
- Even in the modern era there is no decryption for the VMS
- If this was an invented language it still should obey a normal language rhythm for token repeats
- otol is a label for a star, plant and a empty pipe
- Lastly what likely would be consonants can be found at times as 1 character tokens
If you are a person trying to decode the Voynich Manuscript I would HIGHLY and its capped for a reason, go on and read the Schinner paper with the link I provided. In my opinion stop wasting your time. Its a dice roll of randomness and the text contains gibberish.
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Posted by: geoffreycaveney - 22-09-2020, 10:16 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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The Voynich vord ending [-dy] is well known for its ubiquitous presence in the ms text. But recently I have found some rather striking statistics about another interesting vord ending:
[-ckhy].
Of course [-ckhy] cannot be anywhere near as frequent as [-dy], because the ligature [ckh] itself only occurs with modest frequency in the ms text. But what is striking to me is just how large a portion of all occurrences of [ckh] in fact appear as part of this particular vord ending [-ckhy].
I have followed here Koen's and Marco's verbose cipher analysis ideas, by which [ok] is treated as a single unit distinct from [k]. Thus I treat [ockh] as a distinct unit different from [ckh]. My analysis here focuses on [ckh] and [-ckhy] without [o] before them.
It is probably well known that vord-final [-dy], occurring 6690 times, constitutes over half of all 12505 occurrences of [d] in the Voynich ms text.
I find it notable that vord-final [-ckhy] (without preceding [o]), occurring 360 times, also constitutes over half of all 706 occurrences of [ckh] (without preceding [o]) in the ms text as well.
No other glyphs share this level of frequency of occurrence as vord-final [glyph+y]. Vord-final [-ockhy] makes up 42% of all [ockh]. Curiously, the preference is reversed for [cth], where final [-octhy] makes up 43% of all [octh], but final [-cthy] without preceding [o] only makes up 37.5% of all [cth] without preceding [o]. There would be no reason to expect such discrepancies between [ckh], [ockh], [cth], and [octh] if the ms text were merely generated by some kind of automatic self-copying algorithmic method.
It is interesting to note that the special top-line ligature glyphs have a somewhat less frequent occurrence before final [y]: vord-final [-cphy] only makes up 23% of all [cph], and final [-cfhy] only 31% of all [cfh]. Like [cth], but unlike [ckh], these percentages rise somewhat with a preceding [o]: final [-ocphy] makes up 39% of all [ocph], and final [-ocfhy] 40% of all [ocfh]. It should be noted that the sample sizes are getting extremely small for these last glyph sequences: Here 40% means just 6 out of 15.
Thus we have the curious fact that [ckh] is the only one of the ligature glyphs which is more likely to occur before vord-final [y] without a preceding [o] than it is with a preceding [o].
It is probably not surprising that vord-final [-ey] is also rather frequent, making up 27.6% of all [e]. All other glyphs occur much less frequently before vord-final [y]: final [-oshy] is 19% of all [osh], and final [-ochy] is 15% of all [och], but these percentages decline significantly to 6% and 9% without the [o]. All other glyphs, with or without preceding [o], occur less than 10% of the time before vord-final [y].
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Therefore I was curious to look into this very frequent vord-final [-ckhy] (without preceding [o]) more deeply. In fact, it turns out that the vast majority of occurrences of vord-final [-ckhy] without preceding [o] comprise just five Voynich ms vords: [chckhy] (140), [shckhy] (60), [checkhy] (47), [ckhy] (39), and [sheckhy] (35). Together they make up 321 of the 360 vord-final [-ckhy] without [o]. No other such Voynich vord type occurs more than 3 times in the ms text.
We thus arrive at the striking conclusion that these five Voynich vords [chckhy], [shckhy], [checkhy], [ckhy], and [sheckhy] constitute a sizable 45.5% of all [ckh] without preceding [o] in the ms text.
Even the famous [chedy], [shedy], [qokeedy], et al., cannot match this feat: The five most frequent vord-final [-dy] vords [chedy], [shedy], [qokeedy], [qokedy], and [dy] constitute only 17.4% of all occurrences of [d] without preceding [o] in the ms text.
For comparison I also checked these five specific [-ckhy] vords with [cth] substituted for [ckh]: I found 79 [chcthy], 31 [shcthy], 28 [checthy], 111 [cthy], and 20 [shecthy]. Together they constitute 34% of all [cth] without preceding [o]. Most striking is the much greater frequency of [cthy] itself as a vord, compared to [ckhy] itself. All the other vords occur more frequently with [ckh] than with [cth]. Again, these are unexpected discrepancies that cannot be easily explained by an automatic self-copying algorithmic method.
Finally, I checked these five [-ckhy] words with the preceding [o] inserted: I found 21 [chockhy], 5 [shockhy], 10 [cheockhy], 13 [ockhy], and 2 [sheockhy]. Together they constitute 25.4% of all [ockh].
In conclusion, I think it may be worth looking more deeply into the five Voynich vords [chckhy], [shckhy], [checkhy], [ckhy], and [sheckhy] that make up a striking 45.5% of all occurrences of the ligature [ckh] without a preceding [o] in the ms text. Also, the one vord [cthy] that occurs more frequently than [ckhy] may be worthy of particular attention and investigation as well.
Geoffrey
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| If you made the VMs, ... |
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Posted by: R. Sale - 22-09-2020, 07:10 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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If you made the VMs, what would it be? How is the information presented? Why were these images and this text created - either in whole or in part? - where there have already been such a variety of suggested interpretations. And what can be learned from this manuscript as it is investigated, in the current circumstance?
If you made the VMs, you would already be familiar with the old traditions and with the relevant science of that historical era.
If you made the VMs, you would pretty much need to confine information, references, methods and techniques to the first part of the 1400s - unless some excuse is provided. Just to avoid anachronism. While some complexity and sophistication must be allowed.
If you made the VMs, is it false and meaningless? Is it intended to be scientific or literate? Is it a facade for a disguised reality- encoded, encrypted - or whatever?
My view is that the VMs is the best surviving example of an attempt to embody Roger Bacon's first rule of obfuscated communication, which is *not* to let the fact of obfuscation be plainly obvious as in many early code systems. And for the investigator having the necessary familiarity with tradition (heraldry) and with science (botany) as would be contemporary with the parchment dates, then one of the first cracks in the VMs facade takes the shape of a nebuly line.
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Posted by: crwiin - 22-09-2020, 06:10 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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I'm just opening a thread for discussion, but I believe people should stop trying to think of translating the manuscript using known languages and instead look for patterns in the text and try to relate what may be said in it to the pictures. Then maybe we could understand this unique language. For example if a certain word structure comes up often they may be connectives etc.
Just an idea, I'm not sure if people have already tried this I just registered to the website.
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Posted by: R. Sale - 21-09-2020, 07:50 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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The investigations of the VMs cosmos and the zodiac sequence seem to reveal a complex combination of various methods of trickery, disguise, heraldic canting and obfuscation. Multiple methods of obfuscation are used in the illustrations. Why not in the written text as well? In a way, this is incorporated in the suggestions that the language may in some part contain or be composed of nulls, filler etc.
At the same time, the statistical method of investigation is to take the entire written corpus and analyze it as if all parts are equally valid. However, this cannot be expected to give useful results if that assumption is false.
So, if the VMs does contain meaningful text, in combination with meaningless filler, there needs to be a way to differentiate between them. Differentiation based on internal characteristics would be a herculean task. If it was intended that meaning could be recovered from the VMs, then a simple and reliable, yet subtle, method needs to be employed to designate meaningful text. That method is position, the use of a specific location. The problem then is to define and discover how the specific location is designated. And the method used here is tradition - disguised, obfuscated, unrecognized, forgotten tradition as seen or not seen in the illustrations.
Rather than labelling text as meaningful and meaningless (filler), there might be two (or more) methods or levels of obfuscation. The majority of text could be obfuscated by a more difficult method, while the text with a simpler method of obfuscation, containing key information, would be the part that is physically hidden.
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| previous research on Arabic and the Voynich ms? |
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Posted by: geoffreycaveney - 18-09-2020, 11:37 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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The following is very speculative so I'm moving it out of the "Verbose cipher" thread before I even put it in there.
This also has nothing to do with any of what might be considered my own "pet" theories about the Voynich ms, currently or previously.
But my You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the Voynich ms text, and the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. on folio page f67v1, unexpectedly drew my attention to Arabic for a couple reasons. I wish to emphasize, Arabic would not by any means be my first candidate to be the language of the Voynich ms. Of course it is possible, like many languages are. My first inclination, like Ventris with Linear B and Greek, would be to first try to find evidence to rule out Arabic as a candidate language if possible, and see if such efforts succeed or fail. Ventris was led to the Mycenaean Greek hypothesis as a result of a line of investigation to try to prove that Linear B wasn't Greek, which to his own surprise failed and led to the opposite conclusion.
One of the VCI "Zodiac" labels reads <d'hrá>. I happened to discover that al-eadhra' is the Arabic name for Virgo (for Arabic-speaking Christians, Maryam al-eadhra' means "the Virgin Mary"). Now before anyone gets too excited, I have not been able to find many other such matches among Arabic Zodiac sign names, although the issue is apparently complicated by the fact that several different sets of Arabic Zodiac signs and names appear to exist, and who knows what the situation was like in the late medieval period. An investigation into Arabic in medieval Europe would also have to include the Maltese language, for example. But I digress. Another VCI "Zodiac" label reads <káás>, and the Arabic name for Sagittarius is al-qaws. Alas, this label is four "houses" away from <d'hrá>, while Sagittarius should only be three houses away from Virgo. More vaguely, the VCI Zodiac label <da aly> loosely resembles al-dulu, the Arabic name for Aquarius. At least <da aly> is two houses away from <káás>, the right distance from Sagittarius to Aquarius.
This is a curiosity, but hardly convincing. The best of the name matches, <d'hrá>, is the one in the "wrong" place in relation to the other two roughly similar names. And a quick check has not found any explanation for what the other nine label names might be related to. Of course at this provisional stage many of the phonetic values of the VCI transcription system could be completely wrong, but changes that improve other label names might also disturb the neat match of <d'hrá>. For now it is only a few curious names, which may or may not mean anything.
I must also mention that naturally I had to check the VCI transcription of the two label words near the group of seven stars that appear to represent the Pleiades. In fact I did this before I did the 12 "Zodiac" labels. The VCI readings of the two vords are <khaly> and <hajez>. Hejaz is the historically significant Arabian coastal region along the Red Sea, in which Mecca and Medina are located. Khali is the Arabic name of the large desert bordering Hejaz to the east. How this would be related to the Pleiades, I don't know. One wall of the Kaaba in Mecca is aligned with the rising point of Canopus, the second-brightest star in the night sky after Sirius.
I never delved much into Arabic in relation to the Voynich ms. I always figured that hundreds of millions of people around the world know the language so well already, that I never thought I could contribute much to such an investigation without a great knowledge of the language myself. I also figured if the ms was written in Arabic, surely someone would have figured that out and deciphered it already. But maybe everyone else has always figured the same thing too, so that the hypothesis has perhaps actually not been as deeply investigated as other well-known languages have.
The one tell-tale giveaway sign of the Arabic language should be the ubiquitous article "al-" occurring before a very large number of nouns in any text. It should be everywhere, unmistakable and impossible to miss. However, in the Voynich ms text, the VCI representation of <al>/<l>, which is the equivalent of EVA [ar]/[or], occurs predominantly at the ends of vords, not at the beginnings of them. A hypothesis of a "right-to-left" reading of the Voynich ms text is implausible, and in particular all the Arabic words cited above are the result of left-to-right reading of the VCI transcription. The only explanation I can think of to justify the Arabic hypothesis with the VCI character readings is that the author enciphered the text by writing the article "al-" at the ends of words rather than at the beginnings of words as in standard Arabic. This sounds bizarre, but after all we are dealing with a bizarre manuscript and text. One might perhaps compare it to the French argot "Verlan", in which the syllables of words are transposed. (Such an idea can also be considered for the many Romance languages with articles with "l", of which the word "Verlan" itself is one example.)
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