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Nymph's tale Posted by: Searcher - 16-01-2021, 04:42 PM - Forum: Fiction, Comics, Films & Videos, Games & other Media - Replies (3) I’d like to present you a fairy tale about a nymph, based on the Quire 13 of the Voynich manuscript. I tried very hard to make the tale as close as possible to the drawings of Q13, in the same sequence. The only change I made was to rearrange the bifolio f78-f81. I sent it to the corresponding subsection Q13 with large pools.  I also want to express my gratitude to Koen and Matthias for their enormous contribution to my inspiration. You can read the tale in English You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and in Russian - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. (PDF) I put the tale in my blog and here, on the forum, as commenting on the forum seems to me more comfortable. I'd be glad to know your opinions, impressions and remarks, what you liked or disliked.    Liber de Sapientia Posted by: Pythagoras - 15-01-2021, 06:51 AM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (5) The inquisition came after many people publishing versions of the bible in greek and languages other than latin. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Latin was the language of the rich priestly class, the chosen ones connected directly to the devine. They held other works censored too: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. This culminating with episodes such as the Galileo affair in 1600: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. And yet it moves.. Vulgar Latin and romance languages and studying old greek helped break down this separation so that regular people can interpret the bible and other works. For the ancient greeks valued the spread of knowledge for its own sake and not monopolising it. This accompanied the renaissance and a flourishing of art by people like Da Vinci and new principles of humanity which also lead to great steps in scientific understanding and discoveries of technology such as the printing press, rediscovery of knowledge such as heliocentrism and discovery of new lands such as new spain and americas But the same small minds have come after Julian Assange today and locked him in a tower too for publishing journalistic information about war crimes. Please help to free him by raising the issue or signing a petition: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  Should we be afraid that if we write anything about the VMS in a public forum that we too would be locked away by these same people that are against the sharing of information? No. The same people do not want DaVinci to draw anything or Copernicus to write anything down because knowledge threatens their authority. On a positive note, today is Wikipedia's 20th birthday anniversary. Liber de Sapientia Vive la liberté. Vive la sabiduria. Viva la Vida!   Antonio de Leon 1792 similar faces Posted by: Pythagoras - 10-01-2021, 11:17 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (11) is this a common way to draw faces in the 15th-18thC period? these are by Antonio de Leon y Gama (1792), Mexico. and look very similar to voynich faces. which could mean that they used the Voynich MS to copy the face design (possibly in Mexico or Spain). maybe Antonio de Leon had seen it through Tepenec. i shouldn't jump to any brash conclusions though, espcially on little sleep.   Dr. Colin Layfield and Dr. John Abela are doing research on the VMS Posted by: bi3mw - 06-01-2021, 07:54 PM - Forum: News - Replies (9) According to this newspaper article from January the 3rd, a research team in Malta (Dr. Colin Layfield and Dr. John Abela ) is busy with research on the VMS. Concrete results are not announced yet. Maybe it is worth to keep an eye on this project. Dr Colin Layfield and Dr John Abela are both senior lecturers in the Department of Computer Information Systems in the Faculty of Information and Communication Technology ( University of Malta ). Their research areas include Artificial Intelligence and Natural Language Processing. To the article: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. edit: I found this older paper (May 2020): You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.   Trivia! Posted by: ReneZ - 04-01-2021, 06:37 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (28) How could I have overlooked it? Today (4 January 2021) is National Trivia Day in the US (no joke). So let's have some Voynich trivia here.   Voynich Manuscript: Numeric Enigma? Posted by: lurker - 03-01-2021, 10:33 PM - Forum: News - Replies (4) Voynich Manuscript: Numeric Enigma? by Vladimír Matlach, Barbora Anna Janečková and Daniel Dostál Link to preprint: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Abstract:  Quote:In this article, we employ simple descriptive methods in order to explore the peculiar behavior of the symbols in the Voynich Manuscript. Such analysis reveals a group of symbols which are further analyzed for the possibility of being compounds (or ligatures), using a specifically developed method. The results suggest the possibility that the alphabet of the manuscript is a lot smaller, and steganographic type of encoding is proposed to explain many of the already known and newly revealed properties.   Rings are for brides Posted by: R. Sale - 02-01-2021, 07:47 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (12) Speaking of rings as we have previously, perhaps the nymphs with rings are a modified representation of the sort of "bride of Christ" ideology. Modified in the sense that one would *not* expect her to be seen with no clothes on, but then it is the VMs and so many other nymphs are in the buff. Historically this occurs with Colette of Corbie and the Colettine Poor Clares. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Historical data: 1) Occurs c. 1400-1450 2) Occurs (in part) in the Duchy of Burgundy 3) Supported by Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy and his wife, Isabella 4) Two versions of Colette's biography have survived in Duke Philip's library and are in KBR. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Also: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Quoted from above: "[font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]St Colette had a special devotion to St John the Apostle, who appeared to her on one occasion to place a miraculous ring on her finger. As he did so, he said: "by my own right and on behalf of the sovereign King and Prince of virginity and chastity." This ring was visible to all, and was a beautiful and very precious ring of gold.[/font]" [The 1313 text of The Apocalypse of S Jean, (BNF Fr. 13086 f 18), later in the library of Philip the Good, has an Agnus Dei illustration with the best structural similarity to the VMs 'critter' representation on f80v.] Currently, as part of her confirmation, the Colettine sister "receives a silver ring". You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The ring identifies the bride. Once again the VMs artist is being tricky. Picture everyone naked, unless clothing or some other item is necessary to affirm their identity. Unfortunately, as investigators, we are operating on a sort of event horizon, a place where the apparently insignificant, historical details are on the verge of being lost in current references. Some details (papelonny) already have been omitted in some sources. The artistic obfuscation, when combined with the loss of historical details, presents a significant difficulty for VMs interpretation.   [split] f85r2 Posted by: Linda - 02-01-2021, 06:46 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (35) (01-01-2021, 08:11 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Now we can say without a doubt that the important detail in the manuscript is water or some kind of liquid, pools, barrels and pipes occupy a significant part of the manuscript, including the Zodiac part and the Rosette map. I'll give one example, a detail of which has gone unnoticed. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.5r2 contains a diagram with 4 human figures. In addition to the clothes of these people and the things they hold in their hands, I was attracted by one detail - their (human) directions. It actually looks like a mess, these directions would look random if not for the direction of the fountains, which are placed exactly in the same direction as the figures. Personally, I don't know what that might mean. The version about the four tides of the equinoxes here seems the most realistic, but what do mean directions? Happy New Year Searcher I agree the water direction in that diagram goes with quire 13.  In quire 13 there is a path of water, there are two routes, Europe, and Asia/Africa. The commonality of the two routes is the Sea of Azov, for the first route one takes a western river, the other route takes the eastern river. I believe the pointing person at the top of f85r2 represents Azov, with the pointing hand representing Azov itself as a mnemonic. This, coincidentally, is the one with the two directions of fountains.  Counterclockwise, the fountain points to Burgundy or France, ie the Fleur de Lys is the mnemonic here. This one then points to Portugal/Spain with the spring deity mnemonic. That one points to Italy/Sicily with the container.  I think the other direction of Azov points to Italy/Sicily in the clockwise direction because it is the first one of the other three you can get to after going the Asia/Africa route, plus the other two will lead you there also. 'All water leads to Rome' has come up before in the representation of the lakes on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and especially f84v.  So, this map of Europe, if you will, is east up, with Azov being the easternmost point, Burgundy being north, Spain/Portugal being west, and Italy/Sicily being south. Does this not fit?   Kircher's Tarantella Posted by: MarcoP - 01-01-2021, 08:07 PM - Forum: Fiction, Comics, Films & Videos, Games & other Media - Replies (11) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was an interesting phenomenon still existing in Southern Italy in the 1950s. It is a psychological condition traditionally associated with the bite of the semi-mythical spider "la Taranta / Tarantola / Tarantula". It could only be cured by dancing at an appropriate kind of music "la Tarantella". I was surprised to find out that Kircher discusses the subject in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. He also provided transcriptions of the music and lyrics (in both the original Southern dialect and his Latin translation). Attached Files Thumbnail(s)       Movies related to VMS, Linguistics or Antiquarian Literature Posted by: Pythagoras - 31-12-2020, 07:50 AM - Forum: Fiction, Comics, Films & Videos, Games & other Media - Replies (5) I didn't see a thread dedicating a listing of related movies to the VMS search. The most obvious one to me is: The Ninth Gate by Roman Polanski starring Johnny Depp. Another one i saw recently is less to do with literature... but in it is a relation to language and staring into the abyss which i sometimes think can be seen as relevant to VMS study:  The Empty Man. I can probably add the one about Alan Turing: The Imitation Game. Anyone know any more or have any to recommend? First Previous Next Last