22-09-2021, 07:24 PM
Some interesting questions; even from the perspective of the C-14, 15th Century persona, the origins of the Guelf and Ghibelline conflicts were practically ancient history, and yet the effects of that history still contributed to the conditions of life in their present times. How is all that history relevant to the C-14 persona? It's all going to depend so much on the personal history of those involved.
The presence of apparent Ghibelline merlons in the VMs rosette indicates that the creative artist has a knowledge of this type of architectural structure and somewhat of the history which that entails. What it does is it 'casts a net', it makes a statement in the 'historical' space. It is then up to the individual reader to interpret that visual representation.
The intellectual 'net' is like a circle in a Venn diagram. In the matter of the swallowtail merlons, the net is very large. It is not <yet> possible to tell from the VMs illustration, if the artist is involved in the G&G distinction, as a German or Italian, let's say. Or whether the VMs artist is an outside observer originally from some other locality. Swallowtail merlons make a distinct statement, but they don't tell us much, - because they lack specificity - they tell us too much. However, they can function as a first maker in a VMs Venn diagram and the results of other investigations will then fall within this parameter - or they will not.
The probable nature of the VMs illustration is partially determined by the structure of the tower. Fortified towers often have merlons, as shown from original constructions, artistic and heraldic representations. Church towers do not have merlons. Churches often have some type of roof / spire structure. Fortified towers often lack structures other than the merlons. The illustrated tower in the VMs tends more toward a religious than toward a militaristic type of representation. The last of Aga's pictures in Post #97 shows both types of towers.
@Mark: Acc. to Wikipedia article: Looks like you've got the flags mixed with the heraldry.
Examples of the 'Imperial chiefs' occur in numbers in Marco's recently posted, Italian source in the ninja heraldic library.
The presence of apparent Ghibelline merlons in the VMs rosette indicates that the creative artist has a knowledge of this type of architectural structure and somewhat of the history which that entails. What it does is it 'casts a net', it makes a statement in the 'historical' space. It is then up to the individual reader to interpret that visual representation.
The intellectual 'net' is like a circle in a Venn diagram. In the matter of the swallowtail merlons, the net is very large. It is not <yet> possible to tell from the VMs illustration, if the artist is involved in the G&G distinction, as a German or Italian, let's say. Or whether the VMs artist is an outside observer originally from some other locality. Swallowtail merlons make a distinct statement, but they don't tell us much, - because they lack specificity - they tell us too much. However, they can function as a first maker in a VMs Venn diagram and the results of other investigations will then fall within this parameter - or they will not.
The probable nature of the VMs illustration is partially determined by the structure of the tower. Fortified towers often have merlons, as shown from original constructions, artistic and heraldic representations. Church towers do not have merlons. Churches often have some type of roof / spire structure. Fortified towers often lack structures other than the merlons. The illustrated tower in the VMs tends more toward a religious than toward a militaristic type of representation. The last of Aga's pictures in Post #97 shows both types of towers.
@Mark: Acc. to Wikipedia article: Looks like you've got the flags mixed with the heraldry.
Examples of the 'Imperial chiefs' occur in numbers in Marco's recently posted, Italian source in the ninja heraldic library.
