R. Sale > 22-09-2021, 07:24 PM
MarcoP > 22-09-2021, 08:48 PM
Mark Knowles > 22-09-2021, 08:57 PM
(22-09-2021, 07:24 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Mark: Acc. to Wikipedia article: Looks like you've got the flags mixed with the heraldry.
Koen G > 22-09-2021, 09:37 PM
Mark Knowles > 22-09-2021, 09:59 PM
(22-09-2021, 09:37 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Interesting example, Marco. This kind of answers the questions I had at the beginning of this thread.
Here's a confusing one from Genoa, 1330-1340.
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Supposedly Genoa was predominantly Guelph, and the Guelphs supposedly sided with the French. It depicts the death of Philip IV of France a few decades prior. He suffered a stroke while hunting in Pont-Sainte-Maxence, north of Paris and died a few weeks later in Fontainebleau, a bit south of Paris. Both the hunting grounds and the castle have Ghibelline merlons
Aga Tentakulus > 22-09-2021, 10:58 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 22-09-2021, 11:23 PM
R. Sale > 23-09-2021, 01:31 AM
(22-09-2021, 08:57 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(22-09-2021, 07:24 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Mark: Acc. to Wikipedia article: Looks like you've got the flags mixed with the heraldry.
Maybe banners would be a better term than flags.
Mark Knowles > 23-09-2021, 02:15 AM
(23-09-2021, 01:31 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-09-2021, 08:57 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(22-09-2021, 07:24 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Mark: Acc. to Wikipedia article: Looks like you've got the flags mixed with the heraldry.
Maybe banners would be a better term than flags.
As far as flags, the article says that the flag on the papal side had a red cross on a white field, and this is consistent with the various banners found with some of the Agnus Dei representations.
The imperial flag apparently reversed this combination and used a white cross on a red background. Perhaps it is possible that a black eagle on gold would have been used as an imperial banner, but I'll have to actually see a blue banner with three gold fleur-de-lys and a red label before I accept that as a possibility.