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I can't tell you like that. I'd have to do some research. I'm sure there are others.
(04-09-2021, 09:43 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Given that the two (the castle and the wall) are placed in altogether different portions of the chart, I think these are just merlons casual to the artist - the merlons that he's been accustomed to. So when he has to depict merlons, his first and natural choice is swallowtail.
It depends on where the maker(s) had been, had seen (in drawings), or were located, as to whether the examples that inspired the drawings were old, new, or otherwise, since they existed long before in some places, added at the time in others, and continued to be added for centuries thereafter in many different places.
It can still add meaning, if they thought of them as political, but there is no real way to know if that was the case.
A few more heraldry examples. The first two columns are from You are not allowed to view links.
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They are from pages 35v and 36v (I could not find a way to link pages, you can jump there from "overview").
Top-right is a seal of the German city of Landau in der Pfalz, which You are not allowed to view links.
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Bottom-right is a device from You are not allowed to view links.
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I made a map of some places where images of swallowtails merlons were made (14th-15th centuries). So not the places they represent, but the places of manufacture. After all, this is something these places have in common with the VM.
Landau is certainly an outlier, but a very interesting seal.
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It also includes castle Runkelstein in Bolzano, which depicts them on a fresco. For "Lombardy" I marked the capital.
If I missed any or any additional examples are found, I will gladly add them when I'm back.
(I used something like "favorite places" in Google Maps and now they are marked with hearts
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Landau?
Do you have an example?
(06-09-2021, 09:34 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Landau?
Do you have an example?
See Marco's post above mine.
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You have been fooled by the optics of the Landau town seal.
There are no dovetail crenellations.
It is the old town seal and is also awarded as a coin of honour.
For the jubilee, the seal was still available in silver as a coin.
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This is perhaps still interesting.
It says that the estate goes to (ls) after his death.
Probably to the province of Bolzano.
Here is the link to the castle.
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There is a bit of further information on two of the examples from above that apparently can be found in another of the armorials from the heraldica.hypotheses <HH> list.
That source is: Weimar, Herzogin Anna Amalia Bibliothek
Search the author - Virgil Raber. He made copies of earlier armorial listings which include:
1) The tower with doors- from Marco's posting. See Raber: p 112-113 and p 496-497
2) The arched wall - from Aga's posting. See Raber: p 108-109 and p 480-481
There are some 'names' associated: Possibly 'Niderthor' with the tower and 'Weynegg' / 'Wenegg' with the wall.
There are other illustrations that also have swallowtail merlons.
1) Three gold merlons on a bend with a red background. Raber: p 422-423
2) Two blue swallowtail merlons against three white and gold? rows of square merlons. Raber: p 584-585
3) Two gold merlons on black. Raber: p 298-299 [Has no label]