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| f49v and the 2 in the text |
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Posted by: Davidsch - 25-11-2019, 11:51 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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I was looking at something else and noticed that on the page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there is a clear 2 (two).
Undoubtedly it has been noticed before by others, but I can not remember any discussion on it.
This 2, seems not a coincidence, because it is not only in the margin, it is also clearly in the text, on the 4th line from below.
I am very interested in your expert opinions (those who already have a solution on the text), explanations (those who already know that the text is a hoax or not), suggestions, other occurrences, etc.
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| The distribution of Eva-f and Eva-p |
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Posted by: ReneZ - 22-11-2019, 11:35 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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It is known that Eva-f and Eva-p appear most commonly on top lines of paragraphs, but how many exceptions are there?
Using the capabilities mentioned in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , it was easy to check.
I used my own transcription (version 1c), and removed uncertain spaces. For alternative readings I selected the first.
Any rare characters that look (a bit) like f and p were ignored, but cPh and cFh were included.
Beside normal paragraph text, these characters also appear in labels, and to some extent in text in circles. The whole text was therefore grouped into three categories:
- First lines of paragraphs
- All other lines of paragraphs
- All other text
The entire text has been represented into 5389 text items or 'loci'. Of these, there are:
723 first lines of paragraphs
3407 other paragraph lines
1259 other types
These loci have different lengths, so the statistics are based on word tokens. I add a screen shot of an Excel file:
p_and_f.png (Size: 4.98 KB / Downloads: 264)
The column 'all' gives the count of all word tokens, and the next two the count of tokens including at least one f or one p.
The row 'P-1' gives the first lines of paragraphs and 'P-n' all other lines. The line 'Other' gives all other loci.
Overall, there are about 3 times as many p-words as f-words. Their distribution in the non-paragraph text is rather similar to the overall text of the MS, but for the paragraph text the know behaviour is quite pronounced. The percentage is more than a factor 10 higher.
However, the exceptions are not rare. There are almost 400 occurrences on later lines in paragraphs, which is again something that requires an explanation. These are almost certainly not just mistakes, as if their appearance there would be 'forbidden'.
How this compares between A and B languages is a next step.
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| Transliteration files and formats |
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Posted by: ReneZ - 22-11-2019, 11:13 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Some time ago, I defined a format similar to the interlinear file format, but which can also host the GC transliteration.
I represented most common historical transliterations in this format. I also updated my own tool to process such files.
However, there were some things that were still not easy to do.
Historically, people recorded the ends of paragraphs in these files, but it is of interest to be able to do separate statistics for first lines of paragraphs. I decided to introduce a new dedicated comment for this, and added this to my own transcription file.
All links can be found on these two pages:
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Here are the most relevant ones:
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With this, I could finally check the real preference of p and f on top lines of paragraphs quite easily. I will post about that next. There is another quite interesting area of statistics that is now possible, which will take a bit more time.
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| James Robert Child passed away |
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Posted by: bi3mw - 11-11-2019, 04:09 PM - Forum: News
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I recently read an obituary to James Robert Child You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. . It said that he had been working on the VMS for decades ( as a Linguist ).
Quote:He spent decades, in particular, analyzing and translating a 15th century handwritten and illustrated codex known as the Voynich manuscript, working with a colleague into his 90s to create and update a website.
I didn't know about this work. Now I see his website for the first time. The adress is:
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| sh_ and ch_ compose the same words |
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Posted by: Davidsch - 05-11-2019, 08:56 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Based on EVA.
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I assume that sh_ and ch_ words are the same, because they behave the same and have same contacts
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If sh... words are always compacter than ch..words in the entire text,
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could this strongly signal that sh...words are compacter because the diacritic mark above signals an abbreviation?
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if the answer is yes, can we assume that sh... words are abbreviated versions on the same ch... words and what letters could be compacted there?
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| [split] Dating ink? |
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Posted by: bi3mw - 05-11-2019, 11:59 AM - Forum: Physical material
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For the radiocarbon dating of the VMS the following statement can be read on the net:
Quote:Experts from the McCrone Research Institute in Chicago have found that the ink was not applied much later.
Is that what the McCrone report says ? I can't find the text passage. Or is there another paper in which this is stated ?
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| Questions for Alain Touwaide |
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Posted by: Koen G - 04-11-2019, 07:34 PM - Forum: News
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Quote:Dear Mr Gheuens,
Thanks for your message. I have noticed indeed that incorrect information is circulating about my October 14 talk. I'll be happy to answer your questions in writing, via email. If you want to send me a list of such questions, please, do feel free to do so. This email address is correct.
Looking forward to hearing from you, many thanks.
Best wishes
[font=Garamond, Georgia, serif]Alain Touwaide[/font]
You know what this means guys! Let's decide which questions I'll send to Touwaide.
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