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| New Post: "I Do Listen to the Experts. Do YOU?" |
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Posted by: proto57 - 23-03-2024, 08:32 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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I wrote this in response to the frequent admonition that if I would only "listen to the experts", I would realize why my various ideas... and my current Modern Forgery hypothesis, are wrong.
Well I am a skeptic at heart, and I don't feel being one is a bad thing. But also, when recently so challenged to listen to the experts, I realized something: I actually do listen to them, and always have. In fact I, and anyone who believes this is a modern forgery, along with me, really agrees with most of the experts of the past, and many of the present.
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I do listen to the experts, in fact. Do you?
Rich.
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| What do the star-like images represent? - March 2024 |
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Posted by: pjburkshire - 23-03-2024, 02:51 PM - Forum: Imagery
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If we are looking at a picture and we can't agree on if we are looking at a picture of a cat or a picture of a bus, we are not going to get very far in agreeing on the story it is telling.
What do the star-like images represent? - March 2024
- I think they represent the stars up in the night sky.
- I think they represent souls.
- I have a different idea about the meaning of the stars.
- Don't know / Not sure / No comment.
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| repeating crescents & the faces on f68r1_f68r2_f68r3 |
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Posted by: pjburkshire - 23-03-2024, 12:16 PM - Forum: Imagery
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(18-03-2024, 10:34 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, what you say is a reasonable argument.
I believe that the c-shapes are the symbol of the moon and the representation of its movement, and it is a symbol that by the time of Voynich must have already been fixed. The logical thing is that, taking into account the phases of the moon, the author also represented the mirror image, but perhaps, as you say, the letter c of the alphabet influenced the setting of the symbol.
In any case, in the Voynich we can see an image in which the symbol of the moon, always with the same shape, surrounds the personified face of the moon
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This is probably more of a discussion for the "Imagery" thread than the "Analysis of the text" thread.
I am not convinced that the top image on page f68r1 is a personified face of the Moon, but if it is, what do you see as the lower face on page f68r1 and the two faces on f68r2 and the one face on f68r3?
These same repeating crescents are seen in the upper-left circle on the the Rosettes page. Any comments on what the repeating crescents mean there?
Edit: I would add that personally I think the lower face on f68r1 and the upper face on f68r2 look more like personified faces of the Moon. To me, the upper face on f68r1 and the lower face on f68r2 look more like people. They seem to have hair. I don't remember seeing a personified face of the Moon with hair before.
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Posted by: pjburkshire - 21-03-2024, 04:51 PM - Forum: Imagery
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Thomas Aquinas (c. 1225 – 1274)
What Did St. Thomas Aquinas Believe about “Ensoulment?”
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Aquinas did say an unborn baby receives a soul 40 or 80 days after conception, depending on gender.
The 40/80-day view is based on the writings of Aristotle, who said a child becomes human at “formation,” the point at which it first “has a human form”–that is, when it looks human. He said this was 40 days for boys and 80 days for girls.
Ensoulment and the Courage of Pius IX
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chapter 18–22 outlines how the concept of ensoulment developed throughout the centuries starting with Aristotle (384–322 BCE) and his hypothesis of delayed animation as advanced in his theory of three types of souls. Aristotle discerned that human embryonic development came through a secession of souls. First, the vegetative soul followed by the animal soul and finally the rational soul. The third or rational soul was believed to come into existence roughly forty days for a male and eighty to ninety days for a female, after the time of conception. For Aristotle, ensoulment did not happen until the third or rational soul manifested—hence, his theory of delayed (or mediate) animation.
See You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. "nymphs" on left.
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| Types of Word Breaks (Spaces) |
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Posted by: Hermes777 - 20-03-2024, 11:00 PM - Forum: News
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New posts at LINGUA NYMPHARUM on various topics, most recently on word breaks and spaces.
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It follows from a previous post, 'What is Q and what does Q do?'
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and this stratification model:
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| [sh] and Paragraph First Line |
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Posted by: Emma May Smith - 20-03-2024, 12:18 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Hello, I have a very quick question:
Is it already known that words containing [sh], and specifically those beginning [sh], are more common in the first line of a paragraph?
The presence of [f] and [p] has been known for a while in this location, but am uncertain if [sh] had been mentioned before. Can anybody recall?
(Also, seemingly, words ending [chdy], but I'm less certain on this.)
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| The Rosettes Page - March 2024 |
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Posted by: pjburkshire - 19-03-2024, 05:48 PM - Forum: Imagery
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What do you think the Rosettes page (the large fold-out with nine circles at the end of Quire 14) represents?
- I think the Rosettes page represents Heavenly Jerusalem.
- I think the Rosettes page represents a general form of Heaven.
- I think the Rosettes page represents a real place on Earth.
- I have a different idea about the meaning of the Rosettes page.
- I don't know what the Rosettes page represents.
This message board is supposed to be about people sharing ideas. I want to encourage people to share their ideas. I want to know what people believe about the illustrations in the Voynich Manuscript and I want to know why they believe what they believe.
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