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| Nebuly plant leaves |
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Posted by: R. Sale - 11-07-2016, 08:39 PM - Forum: Imagery
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The VMs has several examples (f35v, f41v, f50r) of plants where the leaf edges are drawn with a nebuly line. Nebly is a term borrowed from heraldry that defines a line similar to a sine wave, but with bulbous crests and troughs.
Are there really plants that have this kind of leaf margin?
And has anyone found this type of line similarly used in other medieval botanical illustrations?
Other examples of the use of this line are found in VMs Quire 13 and elsewhere. This clearly puts the VMs in the group using this artistic device, while there are many examples illustrations and manuscripts where such use is not demonstrated.
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| f99v Confirmation Manuscript |
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Posted by: SMDresearch - 09-07-2016, 06:23 PM - Forum: Imagery
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Hello
Just a quick note to post about an important confirmation of
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While few believed that this was reality let alone any of
the speculations about such a mystery, many did hold judgment
until some additional outside confirmations were made.
Mycologists seemed in agreement because so many markings matched up
to only this mushroom. But what about other Manuscripts?
Well that has been a long standing Voynich problem
Today the British Museum posted on a small mystery page that
has close similarities to the Voynich and also shows the white mushroom
in a Hugelkultur Garden. I find this quite incredible !
First lets go to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. painting
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then wiki info and photo
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British Museum Post
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Hugelkultur images a long pile of wood with mounding of earth & composting
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Mushroom paintings from middle ages are quite rare
they burned them all, and continued burning into new world as well
Its amazing we have any imagery at all of this important discovery
Sincerely
SMD Research Team
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| My thoughts on the VMS |
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Posted by: ThomasCoon - 07-07-2016, 10:00 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Hey all, I'm just making this thread to organize my approaches to decoding the manuscript.
I've got two angles of approach:
Method 1) Figuring out the grammar of the manuscript. If I can figure out that the manuscript has conjugations or declension patterns, I can start to narrow down the underlying language.
Method 2) Figuring out what characters act like vowels and which act like consonants. Or: trying to figure out if some Voynich characters represent multiple sounds (like Latin abbreviations).
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| Heraldry: The Prequel |
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Posted by: R. Sale - 30-06-2016, 01:06 AM - Forum: Imagery
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The recent observation that the dots were misaligned got me thinking about how one should evaluate visual details. When are such details decisive, when are they confirming, when can they be ignored. One option that opens the possibility of interpretation is the comparison with a known system. Heraldry is a known system, well established and far less changeable than the more glamorous fields of alchemy and astrology have been shown to be.
In order to use the system, the proper images must be included in the illustrations. But the VMs is not an instructional text. It is a text for those who already know and therefore can recognize what the illustrations present. But what happens when the dots are not aligned? What happens when the standard example doesn't have as many blue lines as the VMs illustration? Does that invalidate the comparison? What happens if there are problems with the presumed standard. There were a number of years, way back when, when the Wiki representation of the Fieschi armorial insignia had the colors reversed.
Here is the current Wiki version:
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And here is the representation found on the tomb of Pope Adrian V.
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And they are not the same. The difference is whether the top line is divided into thirds or into quarters. Quarters is a better arrangement because it conforms with the standard heraldic rule for primary tincture placement. But the real matter of significance is to determine the correct version of the standard example before it can be compared with the VMs illustration. Otherwise, those, who have already made this superficial comparison, will find it wanting. That determination is made with the blazon. And in this case, the blazon of the Genoese popes, is, 'bendy, argent et azur'. That is diagonally striped, and striped in pairs, with silver and blue. But it does not say how many pairs, it could be three pairs, which is shown in both examples above. This is called a bendy in six parts, but it could be a bendy in eight parts, or ten parts or twelve parts. The counting of parts was instituted in the 1800s to clarify matters, but obviously cannot be applied retroactively. So the VMs does not exceed the blazon definition, though one might expect with a tub, that the decoration goes all the way around.
The thing about the illustrations is not that they are exact copies of armorial insignia. They are evocative representations of a particular, heraldic, armorial insignia and a particular ecclesiastical heraldic hat. A simple combination of two heraldic markers in a unique historical event. It is of course necessary to get the VMs patterns to a proper orientation. And this is done by removal of the radial distractions and viewing the orientation of the two blue-striped patterns as they exist on the page!
Once the innate pairing of the striped patterns and the red galero come together, the historic identification should come into play. Numerous members of the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy would certainly have the potential to posit this identification and immediately see that the characters are in their proper hierarchical places in the celestial spheres shown in the illustration. Placement is objective, not subjective. The problem is that in modern investigation, these images are only seen as generic. Their evocative identities have been lost and a list of objective positional confirmations, including the papelonny pun somehow still fails the test of historically grounded identification even though its been intentionally placed in the illustrations. But what happens when we don't know papelonny?
May the prequel expand your identifications.
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| The top of VMs Pisces |
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Posted by: R. Sale - 26-06-2016, 06:04 PM - Forum: Imagery
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What comments does anyone have about the four figures sitting at the top of VMs Pisces? If someone could post an image, that would be great. Feel free to wander in the rest of this illustration. I have my opinions, but don't want to sway the initial response.
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| The Booles and the Hintons |
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Posted by: davidjackson - 26-06-2016, 04:25 PM - Forum: News
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From the author, Gerry Kennedy:
My Boole/Voynich book following the lives of the 2 Boole and Hinton dynasties is due out on the 29th Jun after years of work, published by by Atrium/Cork University Press under the title 'The Booles and the Hintons' (£25 hardback, 450 pages). It includes a revising chapter on the Voynich Manuscript based on the 2004 book - so nothing really new there. (although I re-iterate the partial hoax theory of the Marci letter - for what it's worth). What may be of interest, however, is new information on Wilfrid and Ethel and their lives together based on family archives and a full translation of Taratuta's biography of Ethel. Their characters are investigated in detail.
The book deals with the lives of the Hinton dynasty too as well as the Booles from George Boole onwards so a lot of it is VMS irrelevant. It is undoubtedly a hybrid offering: part academic biography, part travel and part diaries of mine and part comment. Enough variety to offend any 'purists' who stray within its covers. I think the result is ok however; we shall see what the world thinks when the reviews come in. I'd be interested to hear any comments if anyone reads read some/all/any of it. I hope it entertains at least.
The publishers have issued a 'widget' blurb of the 1st 29 pages to give chapter descriptions and some flavour, (but nothing specifically on the Voyniches). If you would like to download this it should be possible at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
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