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f99v Confirmation Manuscript - SMDresearch - 09-07-2016
Hello
Just a quick note to post about an important confirmation of
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While few believed that this was reality let alone any of
the speculations about such a mystery, many did hold judgment
until some additional outside confirmations were made.
Mycologists seemed in agreement because so many markings matched up
to only this mushroom. But what about other Manuscripts?
Well that has been a long standing Voynich problem
Today the British Museum posted on a small mystery page that
has close similarities to the Voynich and also shows the white mushroom
in a Hugelkultur Garden. I find this quite incredible !
First lets go to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. painting
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Hugelkultur images a long pile of wood with mounding of earth & composting
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Mushroom paintings from middle ages are quite rare
they burned them all, and continued burning into new world as well
Its amazing we have any imagery at all of this important discovery
Sincerely
SMD Research Team
RE: f99v Confirmation Manuscript - davidjackson - 10-07-2016
The image displayed from Royal MS 2 DXIII which you reference is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the manuscript, which deals with biblical references.
The image depicts (from the BL description):
The angel casts the millstone into the sea (Revelation XVIII: 21-24)
The book, which is in Latin and Norman French (nothing mysterious at all about it) deals with the Apolcalypse. Nothing to do with mushrooms, gardening or botany at all.
I fail to note any similarity to the Voynich whatsoever.
Please keep future postings relevant and less speculative.
RE: f99v Confirmation Manuscript - R. Sale - 10-07-2016
The illustration of the three, little, blue mushrooms on VMs f99v, poses questions that drive straight to the heart of VMs investigation.
If they really are mushrooms, how is that the VMs author knows about them?
If they are not really mushrooms, then they must be illustrations of something else that matches the image even better. What could that be? Because if there is no better alternative, then they are mushrooms.
As to illustration #1. Something that is somewhat close to a nebuly line used as a cosmic manifestation boundary.
Illustration #2: The millstone cast into the sea. The sea has two shores. This is just an illustration without a good representation of perspective, not a mound of something before the person on the left. It's the same on the other side as well, just a narrower area.
Beware the long-tailed saiga!
And check out the cloud band around the VMs central rosette as pointed out by Don of Tallahassee.
RE: f99v Confirmation Manuscript - -JKP- - 18-07-2016
(09-07-2016, 06:23 PM)SMDresearch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hello
Just a quick note to post about an important confirmation of
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Which was identified a couple years ago by Steve D.
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While few believed that this was reality let alone any of
the speculations about such a mystery, many did hold judgment
until some additional outside confirmations were made.
Mycologists seemed in agreement because so many markings matched up
to only this mushroom. But what about other Manuscripts?
Well that has been a long standing Voynich problem
Today the British Museum posted on a small mystery page that
has close similarities to the Voynich and also shows the white mushroom
in a Hugelkultur Garden. I find this quite incredible !
First lets go to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. painting
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then wiki info and photo
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British Museum Post
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Hugelkultur images a long pile of wood with mounding of earth & composting
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Mushroom paintings from middle ages are quite rare
they burned them all, and continued burning into new world as well
Its amazing we have any imagery at all of this important discovery
Sincerely
SMD Research Team
I can't remember if it's Sloane 4016 or one that's similar, but it has brown mushrooms paired with Fagiola.
Hortus Sanitatus simply calls it "fungus".
As for identifying it, if the VMS drawing is a mushroom...
It reminds me of chantarelles (in shape if not in color) but especially resembles the bluish mushrooms in Flora Batavia (1783), including a species of agaricus. Agaricus tends to be whitish or brownish, but it's interesting that it was drawn with a bluish-purple color.
Lactarius indigo has a distinctly blue color and Clitocybe nuda has a bluish-purple foot, but if I remember correctly, both are North American (I think Lactarius may also be native to east Asia).
Clitocybe nuda has a blue foot and is similar in shape to the VMS drawing when it ripens.
Laccaria amethystina is temperate circumboreal and resembles the VMS drawing quite well as it ripens.
There are quite a few possibilities, but I would need to look up the names... the ones I've listed are only those I can recall off the top of my head.
What I find interesting about mushrooms/fungi/lichens is that general-purpose herbals usually show only one (or one mushroom and one lichen) even though many were used medicinally (or for magical purposes). Perhaps it's because they are so diverse... maybe medievalists felt mushrooms to be a topic on their own... there were certainly many mushroom-specific books from about the 17th century onward.