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| Looking to contact these Voynich researchers... |
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Posted by: asteckley - 21-09-2023, 05:51 AM - Forum: News
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I am looking to directly contact any of the historical researchers whose proposals are presented in The Voynich Garden application (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). Well, just those who are still with us, obviously.
And any other researchers who have published possible VMS plant identifications that I have not yet gotten to include in the application. I would like to ensure that their plant identifications have been completely and correctly represented.
If anyone has contact info for any of them, please PM me (or just ask them to email me).
Thanks in advance!
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| Dunin & Schmeh: The Voynich Manuscript Compared with Other Encrypted Books |
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Posted by: Scarecrow - 20-09-2023, 10:08 AM - Forum: News
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Abstract
The Voynich Manuscript is definitely not the only encrypted book known to crypto historians.
The authors of this submission are aware of over 100 other tomes that are written completely or to a considerable part in cipher.
This paper provides an overview on these with a focus on their properties and the reasons why they were created.
The main goal of this paper is to compare the Voynich Manuscript with other encrypted books in order to draw conclusions and make educated guesses with respect to some of the unanswered questions surrounding this famous cryptogram.
Most of all, after we categorize the other known encrypted books, then based on the Voynich Manuscript’s similarities with books in various categories, the purpose of the manuscript can be narrowed down with some certainty to two categories: the knowledge book category and the hoax category
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| Ideas for Moving Voynich Research Forward |
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Posted by: Mark Knowles - 19-09-2023, 10:09 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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It seems like there hasn't been much going on in Voynich research in recent months.
It feels like Nick Pelling's interests have drifted away from the Voynich.
There don't seem to have been many "it is written in" **HISTORIC LANGUAGE** theories presented recently, which I am sure many would suggest is a good thing.
And there don't seem to have been any other discoveries recently.
I have my own research ideas and lines of enquiry; though unfortunately I have been busy with other things of late.
I wonder if there are other research ideas or plans afoot or that others are embarking on.
I think there is plenty of research out there that could be done, though I think that involves specialising on a specific area of Voynich research.
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The Voynich Garden |
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Posted by: asteckley - 15-09-2023, 10:57 PM - Forum: News
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All,
I would like to announce the Beta-launch of a new crowd-based research online application dedicated to into the numerous plant illustrations in the Voynich Manuscript.
This web application is called "The Voynich Garden" and you can find it at: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The site is in beta mode, but as we formally release it, we will carry over any data you enter in the meantime.
I would suggest reading through the application's About page (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) since it describes --after first giving basic background about the Voynich Manuscript itself-- the application, its purpose, and some of its unique features.
We are still performing QA testing, so please excuse any remaining bugs. In fact, please let us know if you do encounter any issues, and we
would welcome any other feedback as well, positive or negative. (Please post any comments in this thread, or email us directly at curator@cryptobotany.org)
--Andrew Steckley
P.S. I apologize if this is the incorrect place (or prefix label) to make this announcement.
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| Comparison of the structure of plants in the VMS and other medieval Manuscripts. |
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Posted by: folaht - 14-09-2023, 09:05 AM - Forum: Imagery
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There's already You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. by You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. on this topic,
but I think it would be nice to compare all plants of all similar manuscripts to
that of the VMS and each other.
Perhaps this is a good way to ID plants,
because all of these flowers of all of these manuscripts are terribly drawn,
so perhaps by comparing the manuscripts, we might be able to find
some patterns in the madness.
I've so far only found one comparison that I'm willing to make.
## List of Manuscripts
### Cambridge Trinity College MS O.2.48 -- date: 1200-1400, language ..., origin: likely Southern Italy
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### Voynich Manuscript - ca. 1420 -- language ???, origin Italy?
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### University of Vermont MS 2 -- date: ca. 1475, language: Italian, origin: Tuscany
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### ??
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## Comparison of plants
### You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. - White affodil (instead of Edith Sherwood's starflower)
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#### Argument for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. - White affodil
My argument of this being the white affodil is that I was simply looking
for a plant that had big leaves shaped into a star.
They both have a white flower in the middle of the star leaves,
but in the Vermont Manuscript they're tiny,
so the Voynich Manuscript image would then actually be
the better drawing of the two.
The UoV MS flower description clearly reads "Astula reggia" and by
websearching you can find "Asphodelus Albus"
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| Unusual Words |
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Posted by: Mark Knowles - 08-09-2023, 03:01 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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I have had the following words referred to me as being unusual:
yshealkair
saiichor
cthoepain
aldalosam
olfsheoral
ataseos
etolctheol
ainarals
cfarasr
ychopordg
lkshykchy
arorochees
oraryteop
qekeochor
doiisaly
lcheolshedy
aiiikhedy
ochepalain
rfchykchey
lkarshar
oinysarx
oloeorain
airorlchy
soefchocphy
qoshocphy
dolchsyckheol
dlocta
efaloir
sykeeeochy
deeamshol
dylchsody
qoekeeykeody
oesearees
cthachcthy
olsheeosol
ycheeytydaiin
eeoseeos
oraroekeol
scseykcheol
aiisockhy
qochoithy
sochorcfhy
dorkcheky
rchealcham
sydarary
iiincheom
salshcthdy
orarorchy
qocpheeckhy
lkarchees
ycheealkaiin
ctheockhosho
cthaichar
odeeeeodl
cthdaoto
samchorly
oqoeeosain
oepchksheey
ydaraishy
cpholrory
oshyteed
qosheckhhy
arolsas
ysarasod
dalaldam
oschotshl
etodaithey
olkchokeedy
ararchodaiin
aithchr
socfchees
These may not be a particularly good collection of unusual words.
I tend to be more interested in words with unusual glyph sequence rather than those words that are unusually long.
I think to be an unusual word it is not necessary that the word occurs only once in the text, but rather that it is more dissimilar from other words.
I am inclined to ignore the first words of paragraph as they tend to seem to start with gallows characters.
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| Decoding the Enigma: Applying Siamese Neural Networks to Decipher the Voynich Manuscr |
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Posted by: pegalac - 29-08-2023, 09:49 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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In summary, I have proposed a method to decipher the text of the Voynich manuscript using siamese neural networks. I have created a database of characters and plan to train a model using this database in the coming weeks. This approach has several significant challenges, including collecting and processing data, the unique language and unknown characters of the Voynich manuscript, and the variability of images in the manuscript. However, I believe that this method has potential and I am optimistic about the results that can be achieved. Sharing the results with the community will be crucial for improving the model and contributing to ongoing research on the Voynich manuscript.
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