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Posted by: Mark Knowles - 09-06-2024, 06:57 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk
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There seems to be some debate as to how ideas move forward in research.
It seems to me what is crucial is people forming hypotheses and constructing theories that may not yet be completely proven. And that the competition between these competing theories leads some to be overturned and some integrated together to form a more complete theory.
I think the idea that knowledge is built up gradually layer upon layer is often not the case, though sometimes it happens like that.
It seems to be that hypotheses are formed and asserted by different people and that as evidence builds up, and so some hypotheses are then refuted.
When it comes to Voynich research I would suggest that having multiple theories is actually a good thing even if it may be frustrating at times. Clearly the stronger the evidence to support a given theory the better.
So I would question some peoples ideas as to how Voynich research should proceed.
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| Who is the author of VM? |
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Posted by: BessAgritianin - 07-06-2024, 06:28 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Hello everybody!
You may believe me or not. (Since there are too many "translators" of the manuscript, if one tells the truth, nobody believes him.)
The author's name stays on the first foil of VM.
Anyone who believes to have translated the text should answer you this simple, simple question- who is the author?
If he/she does not answer it -be sceptical for the rest. I have asked several persons and- no answer at all.
Tell me what is your opinion- who is the author (not the writer/user) of the manuscript?
Be healthy and know, that the answer of this question will explain a lot!
I know the author, but will not disclose it until I may show the other things, that I have a translation of.
The Script is mostly in Moravian. There are other languages however too.
BR
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| Red Lips & Scallopshells |
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Posted by: R. Sale - 05-06-2024, 07:54 PM - Forum: Imagery
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No manipulation or imagination required. You may have to look closely, but generally it's true that most all illustrations of VMs nymphs show the application of red paint to their lips and/or faces.
If you're looking for a scallop-shell cloud band, the best VMs example is in the central rosette. Regular nebuly lines are much used in the VMs
Several historical examples of both motifs combined can be found.
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This source is interesting because of the specificity of its provenance, both in date and location. Plus, it drops right in at the beginning of the VMs C-14 timeline and it establishes a particular location - right in the heart of the French + German + Swiss => Burgundian historical florescence that would occur during this time. From cosmic diagrams to costmary and everything between, the art reveals the artist.
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| Voynich Talk E2 (2/2) |
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Posted by: Koen G - 02-06-2024, 07:52 PM - Forum: News
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The second part of the interview with Benedek Láng and Lev Kerály is available now: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
At the end of the talk, I asked them their opinion on the Voynich Manuscript, since I knew they both had at least an interest in it. Lev explains how he'd plan to approach the problem. Then Benedek, who researched historic ciphers in the context of his interest in the Rohonc Codex, explains why he believes the VM is not enciphered. We also talk about the Codex Seraphinianus and the question of meaning vs. meaninglessness. Note that this conversation was rather limited, since it came after the long Rohonc interview.
In the second part of the video, which I recorded today, I explain some of the terms not every viewer may be familiar with, like entropy, homophonic ciphers, polyalphabetic ciphers. I also demonstrate the effect of these cipher methods on entropy.
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| The Voynich Manuscript: A Non-Stochastic Glossolalia |
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Posted by: bi3mw - 02-06-2024, 01:59 PM - Forum: News
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The Voynich Manuscript: A Non-Stochastic Glossolalia
Joseph Fasano, Manhattanville University
Abstract: The mysterious fifteenth-century Voynich Manuscript has defied all attempts at a
“decoding” since its (re)discovery in 1912. Roger Bacon, Leonardo da Vinci, and all manner of
prominent figures have been theorized as its potential author(s). Attempts to understand the
Voynich script [VS] have largely focused on the decoding of a cipher, with the assumption that
VS is an encoded natural or constructed language. Those who reject the possibility of VS being
such a cipher have tended to dismiss it as “meaningless,” or “fake,” or “gibberish,” perhaps
‘simply’ the random outpourings of a glossolalia. However, this latter position has precluded the
robust study of another possibility. Through analysis of the ‘linguistic’ properties of glossolalia
experiences [GEs], this paper proposes that the unique linguistic properties of the Voynich script
are precisely the salient properties of GEs, and that therefore VS is a GE—perhaps the grandest,
most expansive, and most sustained ever preserved.
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| Video game: Chants of Sennaar |
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Posted by: nablator - 28-05-2024, 03:34 PM - Forum: Fiction, Comics, Films & Videos, Games & other Media
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The Rohonc codex reminds me of last year's (2023) game You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., an adventure game where progress is possible only by learning You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. The meaning of the words and the grammatical rules can be learned (guessed) from context. There are 5 fictional languages to decode and code: translate directly from a language to another language (1 glyph = 1 word). I enjoyed the first 3 levels, then it gets difficult in the last levels/languages, too much for my taste, it's frustrating to have little context and be forced to guess.
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| Wild cards |
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Posted by: dfs346 - 27-05-2024, 10:08 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text
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Thoughts on mapping from precursor documents in abbreviated script, and a possible consequent need to treat certain glyphs, in certain positions, as "wild cards".
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| Ziziphora - f14r |
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Posted by: Pardis Motiee - 26-05-2024, 09:12 AM - Forum: Imagery
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Ziziphora is a genus of the family Lamiaceae. The species of the same genus are medicinal plants used in ancient times. This plant You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. looks-like the illustration on f14r. Although, I can't convince myself that there is a Ziziphora with a single flower on its stem, the leaf and flower style was a little bit shocking.
The translation was like: Capricorn side, single flower. We (are) in the sea and Taurus came to the Moon. In the place of the product, there is Ziziphora intoxicant. It is a bitter product. (procedure You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
The term defined as Ziziphora was the sequence R.T'.A.K = رتاک and the output in Dehkhoda lexicon was pronounced like "rotak" written form رتک with various synonyms: پودنه بََرّی, مشکطرامشیع, بقلةالغزال (the written form in Voynich has the second vowel but first vowel is not specified). Not many descriptions were available for these synonyms so I searched in dictionary again مشک طرا مشیع was actually Kakouty (Ziziphora) a well-studied plant in traditional medicine and apparently it was written about the plant in Makhzan al Adviyeh.
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