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• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Doireannjane > Today, 12:07 AM

  I was offered a new thread or these two combined but they're convoluted so I'm figuring out what to do.
  
  My work follows logic/reason and simple linguistic rules rooted in natural language, rooted in natural syntax. I have identified plants and roots solely through translation that no one else has. My lexicon went through at least three iterations. It is situated in language and history. It is consistent and precise. My work is not entirely within a standard academic mold as I am not a linguist.
  
  My labels I provided for your tests in the thread all make sense. The one attempt of repeatability in the forum that I saw didn't display any of the rules/conditions I set forth.
  
  The sentence asked of me to write in manuscript script, would not have been written in the manuscript. I wrote the words exactly as they do appear in the manuscript.
  
  Yes things were messy because I didn't at all understand this forum and what I had to provide. I didn't have everything phonetically notated in academic graphs/didn't think I needed that. 
  
  I listed links and screenshots, here they are again.
  
  
  Someone asked for the characters written, they're in my publication. 
  
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• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  rikforto > Today, 12:29 AM

  If you continue to seek validation on this forum, you are probably going to have to accept that the judgement of whether or not you have passed any given test or provided any particular proofs lies with the consensus of the forum, and not with you. If you do win people over that you have solved it, there might be a few holdouts, but right now the holdout on accepting the consensus is you. People have been pretty staid---many of us have acknowledged the possibility that further explication could lead to validation. But in the meantime, if you do not want to accept what people are telling you about the state of your theory as presented, I don't know why you'd want this or the other thread open. It's your choice, and goodness knows I can't seem to help but getting involved, but you do not seem to want what is on offer.

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  rikforto > Today, 01:18 AM

  (Yesterday, 10:44 PM)igajkgko Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Did I misunderstand something in the last thread, or was a made-up voynichese sentence happily translated without it being detected as fake?

  
  So, in fairness I don't believe this is what happened. I may have missed the episode---a lot happened---but I can say she was asked to translate some Irish and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I seem to recall someone misunderstood what she was doing, but I cannot find the post and I am only willing to look so hard.
  
  Though it was pointed out, probably not enough has been made about how it did not replicate Voynichese and how it was incomplete because she could not render the entire sentence and is an example of one of the tests not passed, but from my recollection the only fake sentence was the product of a reverse translation. (And I'd love to see the post if I my memory is wrong!)

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Doireannjane > Today, 01:31 AM

  (Today, 12:29 AM)rikforto Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If you continue to seek validation on this forum, you are probably going to have to accept that the judgement of whether or not you have passed any given test or provided any particular proofs lies with the consensus of the forum, and not with you. If you do win people over that you have solved it, there might be a few holdouts, but right now the holdout on accepting the consensus is you. People have been pretty staid---many of us have acknowledged the possibility that further explication could lead to validation. But in the meantime, if you do not want to accept what people are telling you about the state of your theory as presented, I don't know why you'd want this or the other thread open. It's your choice, and goodness knows I can't seem to help but getting involved, but you do not seem to want what is on offer.

  
  I'm not seeking any of your validation on this forum...  I'm here to share information in a forum and communally engage with a text we're all interested in. I was initially looking for volunteers to genuinely try to demonstrate repeatability with me when the time came. But as I said, I have found that elsewhere. I'm on here to share my findings and understanding of this text, which is grounded in reality and evidence.

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  rikforto > Today, 01:44 AM

  Re-reading my post, I probably should have chosen a different word without a double meaning, but I do mean "validation for your theory" in the sense that you are seeking replication and affirmative feedback on it. I'll take you at your word you do not seek emotional validation, though I don't think either side of the double meaning is wrong, exactly

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Ruby Novacna > 8 hours ago

  (Today, 12:07 AM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Someone asked for the characters written, they're in my publication. 
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  You've been asked from the start to publish your correspondences, and yet you continue to post links to your blog and YouTube channel? 
  If that's not making a mockery of people, what is? 
  Just wait for the comments on your blog and on YouTube.

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Rafal > 7 hours ago

  Quote:You've been asked from the start to publish your correspondences, and yet you continue to post links to your blog and YouTube channel?

  
  It is in the blog.
  
  Doireannjane, I hope it is okay if I repost it here:
  
  
  For me it feels a bit incomplete. Where are "b", "c", "m", "n", "s", "u" and so on?

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  rikforto > 7 hours ago

  Two people messaged me overnight to direct me to this exchange, the challenge You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. result here. I saw it, but did not examine the character of the "Voynichese" and took the point to be that "Scoop off shell under woven fabric/web, hole of large oak-tree (or rail) new hammock little confinement titilation, after stubborn tracking, small discomfort, little bed of rowlock, lengthen (?)spike" could not conceivably be a translation. Did not think there was much new there, but boy was I wrong! If providing a translation of forged text did not prompt reevaluation, nothing will.
  
  With that, I will repeat that a lot of effort has been expended on proofs and explaining where this went wrong, to little avail, and I will now try and extricate myself from this thread.

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Doireannjane > 5 hours ago

  Someone just asked about letters/sounds that are made by combo characters so, haha, I’ll repeat, my lexicon is not being taken seriously or understood at all.  You do need an bit of basic Irish understanding. The lexicon has also been fully published and described with sounds for basic understanding. The amount that this is riling you guys up is slightly amusing. It’s getting validated elsewhere, this thread is just about the Cliffs of Moher

• RE: Situated in the Cliffs of Moher area?

  Doireannjane > 5 hours ago

  Lock thread please so I can start a new one that’s less convoluted. Please note, this has become off topic not on my own accord.
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