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Welcome, Guest You have to register before you can post on our site. Username/Email:    Password    Remember me Search Forums (Advanced Search) Online Users There are currently 881 online users. » 8 Member(s) | 866 Guest(s) Applebot, Baidu, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Facebook, Google, Yandex, jdrueke, rikforto, Ruby Novacna Latest Threads [split] Measure uncertain... Forum: Analysis of the text Last Post: Grove 33 minutes ago » Replies: 7 » Views: 213 I am not convinced by the... Forum: Provenance & history Last Post: rikforto 42 minutes ago » Replies: 19 » Views: 634 No text, but a visual cod... Forum: Theories & Solutions Last Post: Antonio García Jiménez 43 minutes ago » Replies: 1,868 » Views: 1,305,453 Voynich is encrypted ENOC... Forum: Theories & Solutions Last Post: Radim Dobeš 54 minutes ago » Replies: 361 » Views: 52,217 The 'Chinese' Theory: Fo... Forum: Theories & Solutions Last Post: Linda 1 hour ago » Replies: 799 » Views: 212,243 15thc perception on swall... Forum: Imagery Last Post: Linda 1 hour ago » Replies: 599 » Views: 334,744 Voynichese is a numeric c... Forum: Theories & Solutions Last Post: Jorge_Stolfi 1 hour ago » Replies: 195 » Views: 20,572 A Glyph Is Not a Letter, ... Forum: News Last Post: rikforto 7 hours ago » Replies: 22 » Views: 1,187 Voynich Reconsidered Forum: News Last Post: dfs346 Yesterday, 08:47 PM » Replies: 151 » Views: 108,699 Voynich's anatomy Forum: Imagery Last Post: ololololo Yesterday, 01:27 PM » Replies: 107 » Views: 9,444

About the Voynich manuscript Posted by: Grimalkin - 06-08-2026, 01:12 PM - Forum: Theories & Solutions - Replies (1) I asked myself a question about this book, and I wondered whether this had ever been considered: What if the manuscript were some kind of binder or index, either written by a scientist of the time or by a scribe, coded in order to protect the ideas of his “master”? That could explain why some of the flowers don’t look accurate: he might have drawn them based on what he understood. And the unreadable text could come from a related object that served as a translation key ? Je me pose une question à propos de ce livre, et je le demandais si cela avait déjà été envisagé : Et si ce manuscrit était une sorte de classeur ou un index, soit rédigé par un scientifique de l'époque, soit par un scribe, de manière codé pour protéger les idées de son "maître", ce qui expliquerait pourquoi certaines fleurs ne sont pas ressemblante : il aurait dessiné selon ce qu'il a compris. Et le côté illisible pourrait venir d'un objet lié servant de base de traduction ?   14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS Posted by: JustAnotherTheory - 03-08-2026, 05:57 AM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (6) The item in question is BNCF, Palatino 586, readable here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. The imagery in this MS recalls a lot that of the VMS. Perhaps wew can find some clues as to the identity of some plants in the VMS from this.                         Could the VMS be inspired from a now lost Provencal/Occitan herbal source?   Theory: it says "visch" for fish, not the month of the year. Posted by: Damiro - 02-08-2026, 11:03 PM - Forum: Theories & Solutions - Replies (9) Translation to English is "Fish" Language is Old High German form and variations are: [*] fisc [*]fisk [*]fisch [*]fish [*]fisg [*]variants beginning with v, including visc, visch, and visg - Most likely phonemic ? Theory derived from: - The amount of letters/symbols. - The assumptions regarding the origin of a scribe - The year it was written (1400s to 1500s) - In my language (Slavic) we say "fish" for this zodiac as well. The only thing that does not match well is the shape of symbols...   A new instance of poxleber Posted by: JustAnotherTheory - 02-08-2026, 05:49 PM - Forum: Marginalia - Replies (24) Well, almost. It's an instance of "boxleber", but to me the interesting part is that the author chose to write the genitive with an "x". To my knowledge, "boxleber" is as rare as "poxleber". Anyway, it is from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (early 1500s), Switzerland.     My reading: "... oder mit eynem guten Syrop / Sommer boxleber / es koste was es wolle / es sol uns kein gelt rewen". Source: Augsburg, Staats- und Stadtbibliothek -- 4 Th H 1735 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.   The Oracle of Trophonius (Ancient Greece) Posted by: JustAnotherTheory - 02-08-2026, 05:38 PM - Forum: Theories & Solutions - Replies (4) This theory is based on an alternate reading of the marginalia on f116v. As you might know, the enigmatic folio's second line begins with the mysterious "michition oladaba8":     I challenge this reading. My reading is as follows: "anthiton (o)lebadeia". These two words represent two ancient Greek cities, close to one another geographically, known for their connection to an ancient oracle ritual called the oracle of Trophonios. Before going further, I would like to show these cities as they appear in 15th-16th century maps. Please note the strikingly varied and sometimes different naming of these cities in contemprary maps.     (Map from 1508 Rome, München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- ESlg/2 A.gr.b. 981     (Map from 1486 Ulm, München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- 2 Inc.c.a. 1820 a)     (Map from 1462 Bologna, München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- Rar. 124)     (Map from 17th Century, München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- 2 Mapp. 13) Here's a side-by-side descirption of these two cities in a Latin geography book:     As you can see, there are many different spellings and namings for these two cities. And my proposal for the interpreration of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is the following:     But the geographic proximity of these cities and the apparent similarity with You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is not the only reason I'm making this suggestion. In Lebadeia, in ancient times, the cult of Trophonius was active. In particular, an oracle was present in one of the caves nearby the city, where some incredible things (allegedly) occured. In order to consult the oracle, a person had to prepare themselves: eat a series of sacred herbs, bathe in the River Herkryna, drink from two rivers called Lethe and Mnemosyne, and then descend into a cave. What happened then in the cave is, to put it mildly, an apparent supernatural horror show. Most participants were so frightened that they were unable to speak for days, sometimes weeks. They witnessed, apparently, the god Trophonius himself in person, revealing to them the secrets of the universe. This often included strange depictions of the cosmos, the heavens, people turning into stars and so forth. We have two major accounts of the happenings inside the cave of Trophonius. One is from Plutarch's De Genio Socratis, while the other is an eyewitness account from the historian and traveller Pausanias. Unfortunately, not much remains of Lebadeia/Olebadia/Livadia today. There are some archeological findings, such as this sun face:     Trophonius is often depicted as a beekeeper:     The surroundings of the city are abundant with warm water springs and ancients baths:     So... in conclusion, here is a theory that has the merit, at least, of being completely different from any others presented here before   ______________________ References:  München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- Rar. 124 - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- ESlg/2 A.gr.b. 981 - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- 2 Inc.c.a. 1820 a - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek -- 2 Mapp. 13 - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.   Summary of the "Big Wipe" theory for the f116v Posted by: Jorge_Stolfi - 02-08-2026, 07:20 AM - Forum: Marginalia - No Replies I just posted a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the "Big Wipe" theory for the "michiton" text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to the "Retracing" thread.  There is also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at my university's site.  All the best, --stolfi   Voynich can help us solve Trajan mystery Posted by: Damiro - 02-08-2026, 05:05 AM - Forum: Theories & Solutions - Replies (9) Hi, my first post here. Not sure if anyone has noticed before, but there is a striking similarity between the unknown device of Trajan column and the Voynich water piper or whatever those are. and this drawing (Page 78) PS this is my first post, I just joined because youtube kept suggesting the videos, also not sure what is the proper image hosting server people like to use here. Any thoughts, opinions? Cheers!   Course at the Institute for Digital Humanities (Cologne) Posted by: bi3mw - 01-08-2026, 09:34 AM - Forum: News - Replies (2) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The following course was offered at the Institute for Digital Humanities, University of Cologne: The Voynich Manuscript as a Research Subject Seminar in the Summer Semester of 2026 The program ran through July 23, 2026. The results will be made available to the public. IDH Wrote:Der Fokus soll dabei auf einer allgemein verständlichen Darstellung liegen, die evtl. auch verschiedene Medien zur Vermittlung der Inhalte nutzt. Ziel ist es, die Inhalte auf der Plattform You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. der Öffentlichkeit zur Verfügung zu stellen. The focus should be on presenting the information in a way that is accessible to everyone, possibly using various media to convey the content. The goal is to make the content available to the public on the platform You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. . I don't know if the course is offered annually or not, or when the “VoynichSC” website is updated. But there's already a lot of interesting material to explore there (unfortunately, in German).   Are the Rosettes a biblical-themed map? Posted by: ololololo - 31-07-2026, 04:24 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (13) Initially, I believed that all of the Rosettes were a map of a city. However, I later realized that this interpretation was rather absurd, as there would be no point in creating such a map for a single city. After looking at them again, I noticed the following: the four Rosettes in the corners of the quadrifolium differ from all the others (including the island) in that they most closely resemble geographical features (a hill on the top left, a city on the top right, a lake on the bottom left, and a second city or temple on the bottom right). And I thought the following: "There was an wrong image" 1 - Mount Sinai 2 - Jerusalem 4 - I've always thought that the area above the blue cross was farmland. This may be a depiction of Gosen. These are the very first associations. The central Rosettes (by the way, their difference is that they are all symmetrical and "schematic") may have a clear religious meaning. If we consider the central island as a hill (rather than an actual island), it could represent the Heavenly Jerusalem. What do you think?     Attached Files Thumbnail(s)       AI Companies destroying rare books to train their AIs Posted by: Mark Knowles - 29-07-2026, 09:17 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (20) Let's just hope they leave some manuscripts for us. Previous Next Last