First off, I wish to demonstrate how I derived my cipher. Most of the VMS glyphs were mapped from the, “Lexicon Abbreviaturarum”. About 60% of the glyphs are from the Lexicon and have a direct letter for letter match to my cipher. Other glyphs were moved to different letter values. The cipher I use is the closest representation for the VMS and indicates Middle English. This cipher also has decoded very few Latin, French and Greek words. As to disguise the VMS the Author constructed the cipher in this manner.
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I believe the Author encoded the VMS in such a way as to make one assume the VMS is predominately Latin. My interpretation is from a view about its look and feel and that Latin has too high of an average number value for it to be Latin. The VMS text is not meaningless, but its structure does not indicate a natural language. The VMS language is only understood by the Author and has a limited vocabulary with an intensely low use of conjunctions. The VMS language is in tune with Ordinal Gematria; when translated words equal to numbers do convey meaning.
The statistics below show the average Ordinal Number values from several languages as a means to compare my Cipher and maybe answer some deeper questions which I don’t understand. One Idea is that my cipher can produce a quality interpretation in Middle English, because the VMS may very well have a limited conjunction vocabulary. Ordinal Gematria was used as in A=1 through alphabets to Z=26.
These statistics below show the differences in higher weighted numeric valued letters to lower, from Modern, Middle and Old English. When I say higher weighted letters, I’m showing letters like (R through Y) from Middle English have a lower Ordinal Value of occurrences when compared with Modern English! The charts below do indicate that the choices made for letter placement correlated to the VMS have a strong relationship to Middle English Gematria.
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Therefore, the VMS is hidden to look like Latin and that it really is just simple Middle English Ordinal Gematria. Also if the VMS contained an abundance of words used as conjunctions then a more structured language would appear even if it is invented as I have explained. The VMS corpus of words would be longer if the Author used conjunctions. The absence of structure is related to a very low use of conjunctions and the use of Gematria in the VMS is the single reason which has stymied the Voynich Community for the last 104 years! Another point is that the, “Eva transcription” although good for statistics may have to be reworked to my cipher if we can ever decode the entire corpus.
You can download my interpretation of the VMS here:
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This is one of not so many plants that can boast some consensus amongst various researchers' identifications. Th. Petersen, the Finnish biologist and Steve D all consider it Paris.
Now, -JKP- You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that Paris does have four leaves (btw, hence quadrifolia), while the plant in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has more. -JKP- suggests this plant to be trientalis europaea.
But trientalis europea has seven leaves, which (unlike Paris, the four leaves of which reveal themselves at best in "cross" only - like Kreuzblatt or Crux Christi) are explicitly resembled in its folk names in some languages (German Siebenstern, Russian седмичник). So if the author confused the number of leaves indeed, he would have been more likely to do that with Paris, and not with Trientalis, wouldn't he?
What do you think? Any other interpretations? Sherwood considers this Arnica montana.
Koen posted an interesting cosmological image in the 'wolkenband thread' You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
I found that very interesting in a different context: For the first time I saw simple signs (little circles, little ticks in group of two) as part of the concentric circles , which I thought of depictions of elements.
In that context, I never found a hint for a similar depiction in the Rosette folio for the four spikes (in the Rosette folio) that connect four of the outermost spheres with the central sphere (see attached image).
Question now is, is that comparsion valid? Obviously only the little circle could be seen as a match but that is far from sure. But could the circles in the concentric display in: Paris, Bibl. Sainte-Geneviève, ms. 1029, f 108 (angels cranking the celestial spheres, Bartholomaeus Anglicus, Le livre des propriétés des choses. c.1350) be related to the 'link of spheres in the Rosette folio (centre and four spokes) ? In the Rosette folio these are definitely four different little IDs commencing (1) circle, (2) two chevrons, (3) group of three ticks in italics and (4) group of three ticks in straight line/alignment.
If not, what could the circle and the group of two ticks (in ) or the four different signatures in the Rosette folio represent?
The Sanskrit word मिथुन You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is used in Hindu Tantras (esoteric scriptures) to refer to the sacrament (sacred ritual) of sexual union between husband and wife. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or Mithuna has various appearances in scripture:
Mithuna: paired, forming a pair; copulation; the zodiacal sign of Gemini in Vedic Astrology, which is depicted as a man and woman in a sexual embrace
Mithunaya: to unite sexually
Mithuni: to become paired, couple or united sexually
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. maithuna.
What I would like to discuss here on Ninja is:
is the gemini in the VMS indeed a man and woman having sex (not visually of course), but are they "paired" as discussed in Maithuna (in the VMS symbolical)
why are they fully dressed and the other women in the VMS are not
is the gemini in the VMS an really original picture and not added later
is the paint original and not added later
what does it mean, or what implications can we make if the gemini indeed shows Maithuna
ps. More on how I came there and the background of this, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (start reading from Nag Hammadi)
The past few years have seen a rise in the number of people arguing for and/or demonstrating non-Latin European character and content in the imagery.
Reviewing threads where a member has raised this issue, it seems that they tend to be diverted, in one way and another, so this thread is only for issues and examples of non-Latin and non-Christian influence and comparative images.
I'll start with one detail I've mentioned often, not only because depicting the sun with a false beard is something we find before the Christian era, but because then we also find documentary evidence that provides a coherent explanation for a sun's being shown like this.
I hope you all are enjoying your New Year as we strive to find meaning in the Voynich Manuscript. I'm working very hard as you are, however I can't seem to find a list of at least a 1000 or 100 most common Middle English words without definitions. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a download or and paste the words in a code section of this post?
(04-01-2017, 04:44 PM)Sam G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The sea creatures are interesting. Perhaps it's coincidental, considering that to some extent roots just look like that, but some of the proposed matches are pretty close and it would be consistent with the other obviously animal-inspired shapes in the botanical imagery.
Now, I'm definitely not saying this is a correct identification at all, but on the topic of sea creatures in the VMS, am I the only one who thinks the "dragon" on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. looks a bit like a seahorse?
The snout, the overall body shape, and the fact that the dragon only appears to have only one "foot" are a pretty good match, though admittedly the arms are hard to explain and the foot/tail is curling the wrong way, and also it appears to be "walking" on land.
Sam: I had never thought of it as a sea horse, but they do surely share some features. I've always thought of it as a relatively late addition (i.e. outside of the plant proper) and comparable to a dragon of this "model": You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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