No one is being mean to you. Koen went out of his way to look at your solution (none of us has ever signed an NDA before!) and give you thoughtful feedback. In return, you suggested he didn't want your solution to be correct and didn't fully look at it. Moreover, you also said you "always push on regardless", which kind of makes it pointless to have asked him to look at it.
(14-04-2025, 06:50 PM)Kris1212 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Of course there are loads of people who claim to have solved it but I really believe my decode works
What we are trying to tell you here is that those loads of people - actually
hundreds of people - felt and feel the same. They didn't pop up and say "I think I might have cracked it but I'm not sure - what do you guys think?"
No, they were all absolutely and passionately certain that their solution is the correct one. Just like you. And it was explained to them why their solution was wrong, to no avail: they still believe absolutely and passionately that their solution is correct. Just like you.
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Login to view.who is still an active member of the forum and still passionately believes she has solved the manuscript
("My solution is the truth"). You can see us asking her the exact same question joben asked you: why are you so certain you are different from all the others?
In a month's time, someone else will have turned up with a completely different solution from you. And we will be saying the same thing to them and pointing them to your solution and the others, and they will be saying "I'm not like Kris and all those others, I really have solved it."
And the cycle will continue, month after month, solver after solver. So, tell us: why are you so 100% certain you are different, given how each of them was 100% certain they were different from the others?
Quote:what would you do, just go quietly into the night or bash it out to see if I'm right...what do you suggest I do??
OK - I'll take you up on that. The problem is that you are already convinced you are right. Confirmation bias means it's probably too late now. To this date, I don't believe we have ever convinced a Voynich solver that they are wrong.
But if it's not too late, then you could read through some of the other solution discussions. From those, you can see:
- how those solvers react to criticism; how confirmation bias is causing them to ignore the criticism or denigrate it (you are far from the first to suggest that people here don't want your solution to be correct)
- the reasons why solutions fail. All the solutions in our list are for different systems but all share common problems. You can then consider whether/how those flaws are present in your solution.
- how really the odds are massively against any solution being correct, because there is is this trap in the Voynich that causes people to believe they have solved it when they haven't.
And then try to look at your solution objectively and reassess it and Koen's comments with all the above in mind. It would still be interesting to see a wrong solution from someone who can discuss its strengths and failings objectively, especially if it can provide even one explanation for Voynichese's unlanguage-like behaviour. It's not interesting to keep getting wrong solutions when the solver is convinced they are right and hand-waves away all criticism because they can't entertain even a slightest flicker of doubt about whether they really are the chosen one who has pulled the sword from the stone, etc, etc.
If/when you publish your solution, I would recommend you do it under a pseudonym. Even though he is unlikely to recognize it, Gerald Cheshire hasn't done his career and reputation any favours with his media frenzy for his wrong solution.
(And I'm still curious as to whether you read any previous work before starting your decoding).
