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RE: Voynich Decoded
Dobri > 14-04-2025, 11:26 AM
Waiting in anticipation to see how the vord lol will be translated with the new method... -
RE: Voynich Decoded
RadioFM > 14-04-2025, 12:35 PM
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RE: Voynich Decoded
Aga Tentakulus > 14-04-2025, 12:47 PM
@Kris1212
It was to be expected.
Now that Koen is sceptical or even negative about the matter, you can forget about a confirmation from a university. If only for the reason that they never do. I speak from experience.
What do you want to do now? Write a paper and declare it as intellectual property, just like a book? -
RE: Voynich Decoded
Koen G > 14-04-2025, 01:36 PM
(14-04-2025, 04:17 AM)asteckley Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Perhaps you should provide your translations for those elements requested by RadioFM in message #37 of this thread (as repeated below)?
Don't get your hopes up. She apparently believes that her theory is so good that it will be stolen as soon as she shows anything from it. Ironically, the reason why I would recommend not showing the theory is that it is embarrassingly misguided.
I'm under NDA so I will say no more on this topic
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RE: Voynich Decoded
Kris1212 > 14-04-2025, 03:07 PM
(14-04-2025, 01:36 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Oh Koen I'm so going to enjoy proving you wrong and all your previous theories about the book just flow out the window...you didn't have to be so mean, just shows I'm onto something :-) More determined than ever, should never poke a bear(14-04-2025, 04:17 AM)asteckley Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Perhaps you should provide your translations for those elements requested by RadioFM in message #37 of this thread (as repeated below)?
Don't get your hopes up. She apparently believes that her theory is so good that it will be stolen as soon as she shows anything from it. Ironically, the reason why I would recommend not showing the theory is that it is embarrassingly misguided.
I'm under NDA so I will say no more on this topic
(14-04-2025, 12:47 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Kris1212
Yes I'm going to put a paper up, working on a plant folio now which I've managed to potentially match to a plant, so I'll put up the intro, one plant folio, and one from each section...googledocs now all set up so it should be much easier and quicker
It was to be expected.
Now that Koen is sceptical or even negative about the matter, you can forget about a confirmation from a university. If only for the reason that they never do. I speak from experience.
What do you want to do now? Write a paper and declare it as intellectual property, just like a book? -
RE: Voynich Decoded
joben > 14-04-2025, 06:14 PM
Seems to me like you don't really care about the critique. Koen was friendly enough to look at your theory. Your reaction was, in lack of better words, indifferent or nonchalant.
There are many people who claim they have solved/translated the VMS. All of the "solutions" produce vastly different texts, so they can't all be true at the same time, right? Can we at least agree on that?
What you are saying between the lines is that everyone else is wrong, even though they are just as convinced as you are that their solution is the right one.
Have you considered the possibility that you might be wrong? -
RE: Voynich Decoded
Kris1212 > 14-04-2025, 06:50 PM
(14-04-2025, 06:14 PM)joben Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Seems to me like you don't really care about the critique. Koen was friendly enough to look at your theory. Your reaction was, in lack of better words, indifferent or nonchalant.
Have you considered the possibility that Koen might be wrong?? Of course there are loads of people who claim to have solved it but I really believe my decode works, what would you do, just go quietly into the night or bash it out to see if I'm right, I took Koens critique on board I haven't ignored it but in my opinion his critiques are answered and I'm going to show that. He started out as friendly enough but I wouldn't say that's the way it is now and why?? because I don't want to give up and listen to him when I really don't think he's correct and I don't think he gave it a very good look, he only saw half of it, the more I'm decoding the more sense it's making, not less....what do you suggest I do??
There are many people who claim they have solved/translated the VMS. All of the "solutions" produce vastly different texts, so they can't all be true at the same time, right? Can we at least agree on that?
What you are saying between the lines is that everyone else is wrong, even though they are just as convinced as you are that their solution is the right one.
Have you considered the possibility that you might be wrong? -
RE: Voynich Decoded
Koen G > 14-04-2025, 07:09 PM
Most if not all of my critiques were completely ignored.
* I can't say much about the misuse of EVA because of the NDA, but you ignored my repeated explanations of what EVA is and especially what it isn't.
* You ignore my objection about the trivial nature of the choices you made. Using your method, I could make the whole MS about my daily shaving routine, and there would be no way of telling which one is a better translation of the text.
* You ignore my objection about self-referentiality. Your "translation" invites a "worldview", which is constructed through your translation. Both the translation and the character you invented are acts of creative writing that don't touch upon any reality, medieval or otherwise.
The only criticism you addressed is my objection that any page translated with your system looks very weird (can't say more, NDA), and you responded to that by saying you'll invent some extra rules.
If you think I am being irrational, I encourage you to either write your paper, or seek a second opinion from someone else volunteering to sign your NDA... -
RE: Voynich Decoded
AxolotlDoesVoynich > 14-04-2025, 07:17 PM
(14-04-2025, 07:09 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Most if not all of my critiques were completely ignored.
I would like to, but he does not like anyone else to even look at it.
* I can't say much about the misuse of EVA because of the NDA, but you ignored my repeated explanations of what EVA is and especially what it isn't.
* You ignore my objection about the trivial nature of the choices you made. Using your method, I could make the whole MS about my daily shaving routine, and there would be no way of telling which one is a better translation of the text.
* You ignore my objection about self-referentiality. Your "translation" invites a "worldview", which is constructed through your translation. Both the translation and the character you invented are acts of creative writing that don't touch upon any reality, medieval or otherwise.
The only criticism you addressed is my objection that any page translated with your system looks very weird (can't say more, NDA), and you responded to that by saying you'll invent some extra rules.
If you think I am being irrational, I encourage you to either write your paper, or seek a second opinion from someone else volunteering to sign your NDA...