Koen G > 01-07-2021, 10:44 PM
Mark Knowles > 02-07-2021, 08:36 AM
(01-07-2021, 10:44 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.All individual buildings (ignoring those parapets/cliffs things that surround the whole foldout) are found within the red E-S-W triangle. Castle, "temple", little houses, portals...Of course there is a wall with Ghibiline merlons on the causeway between the bottom left rosette and the bottom centre rosette; I don't know if that is what you mean by a parapet.
Anton > 03-07-2021, 12:32 PM
(01-07-2021, 10:15 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In fact if anybody were to ask me which word in the Voynich I could best guess the meaning of, I would say, EVA-asal is "asia" as we read in the T/O map on the Rosettes folio.
davidjackson > 03-07-2021, 12:43 PM
Mark Knowles > 03-07-2021, 03:32 PM
(03-07-2021, 12:32 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(01-07-2021, 10:15 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In fact if anybody were to ask me which word in the Voynich I could best guess the meaning of, I would say, EVA-asal is "asia" as we read in the T/O map on the Rosettes folio.
The problem with this is that with all VMS labels - they do not seem to be designators. Look at f68v, the supposed "Asia" part there does not feature this asal at all, and labels for other continents are different as well.
Mark Knowles > 03-07-2021, 03:50 PM
(03-07-2021, 12:43 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It doesn't have to be Asia, Europe, Africa.It doesn't have to be Asia, Europe, Africa. It could Bacon, Egg, Sausage. Anything is possible.
It could be water, fire, earth. Or clergy, aristocracy, peasants. Or God, Son, Holy Ghost. Or any other combination of medieval tripartite. I've seen T-O maps with all of these.
davidjackson > 03-07-2021, 06:05 PM
(03-07-2021, 03:50 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is to some extent a question of probabilities and I think one can use this to ask what is the likelihood of a specific kind of T/O map being the correct one.Normally, I would agree with you 100%.
Aga Tentakulus > 03-07-2021, 06:31 PM
Mark Knowles > 03-07-2021, 06:45 PM
(03-07-2021, 06:05 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If EVA-asal is "Asia" that is hardly enough to decipher Voynichese. In my opinion, given my perspective, a few words is not nearly enough for a useful crib. I wonder if, in an unusual way, for that particular word the mapping/spelling is particularly simple whereas for many other words the structure of a "verbose" cipher is more prevalent such as we see with words beginning with EVA-o.(03-07-2021, 03:50 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is to some extent a question of probabilities and I think one can use this to ask what is the likelihood of a specific kind of T/O map being the correct one.Normally, I would agree with you 100%.
In this book? Dunno.
Still, I fully agree that these labels in the T-O should be an obvious crib into the text. Trouble is, I've spent years on and off worrying at that T-O map, and never found a single damned thing worth telling anyone about.
I wish you more luck than I've had.
(03-07-2021, 06:31 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@davidjackson
I can understand you well. I have one here too. But I have no idea what it means.
davidjackson > 03-07-2021, 08:32 PM
(03-07-2021, 06:31 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I can understand you well. I have one here too. But I have no idea what it means.One idea, since that appears to be a printed work (do you have a reference?)