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Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
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RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Koen G > 07-01-2026, 02:52 PM
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This image (late 15thC, Venetian?) reminded me a bit of the figures in one of the diagrams on the recto of the Rosettes foldout. Especially the "pyramid of scallops" motif that occurs in several sections of the VM. In the Venetian MS, this may be dismissed as a purely decorative motif used around an initial (E), but it seems to me that the choice is not random.
The scene illustrates Rev. 16:1 "Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.”"
The phrase "God's wrath" recalls an earlier verse, Rev. 14:19 "And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God."
So here, the decorative motif quite clearly refers to grapes. -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Bluetoes101 > 08-01-2026, 12:23 AM
Cool find
, in regards to the bottom left image, it looks like where you would expect the usual "blowing heads"(?) of the winds. But piles of rocks don't blow wind..
If I ever escape "vessel research prison" I'm really interested in the drawer(s) use of lines and dots, and what they mean (to them). Maybe it would help untangle some meanings if we could get sort of close. I think it could do with a better understanding and is worthy of effort either way. -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Koen G > 22-01-2026, 12:06 AM
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RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
R. Sale > 23-01-2026, 07:14 PM
The multiplicity of pathways is certainly unique AFAIK, but the internal patterning of the bands looks pretty standard. -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Koen G > 23-01-2026, 07:47 PM
There are a lot of "possibly" and "(?)" in the Morgan's description - definitely not a normal image.
They call the band a "polylobed frame possibly of rope or cord." -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
R. Sale > 23-01-2026, 08:58 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about that and the knot. After a bit, it sort of clicked: Cordeliers
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<It helps if I get the correct reference.>
Interestingly, they also pop up in the effigies.
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RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Bernd > 23-01-2026, 09:40 PM
@Koen
Where is the illustration with the naked figure you posted above from? -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
R. Sale > 23-01-2026, 09:59 PM
Second guessing myself, wearing both a belt and suspenders. Are the central figures more indicative of Mariology? Meaning this would be the girdle of the Virgin?
Whatever it is, it's not like any "wolkenband" I've ever seen. Nice nebuly lines, esp. lower left. -
RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
Koen G > 23-01-2026, 10:02 PM
(23-01-2026, 09:40 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Koen
Where is the illustration with the naked figure you posted above from?
Thanks for reminding me, it's from the bottom image of this page: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Some souls taking the angel ferry up to heaven.