Sam G > 19-03-2016, 07:36 PM
(19-03-2016, 07:32 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:I've responded to this point of yours before:
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I've responded to your point that there is some word order in the VMS (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.):
Torsten > 19-03-2016, 07:44 PM
Quote:Yeah, but you avoided responding to the part about how there might be rules affecting word order that we aren't aware of, just as you are avoiding responding to it now.
Sam G > 19-03-2016, 08:09 PM
(19-03-2016, 07:44 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:Yeah, but you avoided responding to the part about how there might be rules affecting word order that we aren't aware of, just as you are avoiding responding to it now.
No, I didn't respond because I didn't see your response. Even now I didn't found your response.
What did you mean with "rules affecting word order that we aren't aware of". The point is that word order is absent for the VMS. With other words there are no rules concerning the word order.
If you think otherwise please demonstrate the rules we aren't aware of.
Torsten > 19-03-2016, 08:33 PM
Quote:Your assumption seems to be that languages have a single fixed word order that is used in all cases, and that's wrong.
Anton > 19-03-2016, 09:26 PM
Quote:Well, it can't be a ciphertext of any language which has a higher entropy than the VMS text (which rules out all European languages and many others)
Davidsch > 19-03-2016, 10:44 PM
Torsten > 20-03-2016, 12:24 AM
ReneZ > 20-03-2016, 12:47 AM
(19-03-2016, 06:19 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[...] the "anomalously low entropy" of Voynichese is something at least not consistently proven, [...]
Davidsch > 20-03-2016, 12:26 PM
(20-03-2016, 12:24 AM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Davidsch: Sorry, but your text doesn't share the same characteristics.
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The word length distribution is not binomial (There are too many short words).
Anton > 20-03-2016, 01:41 PM
(20-03-2016, 12:47 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(19-03-2016, 06:19 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[...] the "anomalously low entropy" of Voynichese is something at least not consistently proven, [...]
I'm afraid that I don't understand what you mean exactly.
It is one of the easiest features of the MS that anyone trying to explain its meaning should ideally understand.