10-08-2026, 08:09 PM
(10-08-2026, 07:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Or do you mean that, on each thread, only posts that agree with its premise are allowed?You said that the visual form is part of this branch. I thought you had decided to prove your theory this way. Apparently, I was wrong, sorry.
(10-08-2026, 07:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My claim is that the Scribe who copied the Author's draft to vellum was not very bright, so that when he copied decorative illustrations from other books he usually misunderstood them.He could also copy the text with errors, and one of the owners was so foolish that he decided to rewrite the text in Latin. But that’s the general idea.
(10-08-2026, 07:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.He did not recognize it as a stylized cloud band, and drew it as the edge of a pool.The same assumption...
Take a look at the pattern from Orem. The VMS scribe/artist has no reason or opportunity to draw the same pattern. It’s easier for him to draw ordinary bulges. He has no need to put in effort, but that doesn’t mean he should cut corners everywhere.
(10-08-2026, 07:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.No, that does not prove anything. But given the many resemblances between the Bio section and the Balneis (like the "water slide" on f75r), it is pretty likely that those green areas do represent lakes and pools. Al least as the fist layer of meaning -- that is, "pools" is indeed what the Scribe expected/wanted people to see when they looked at those figures.Hm... Can I also refute the speculations based on the similarity to the Orem map?
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No, because there are zillions of other non-Aztec herbals that all look like that. Probability theory explains when such "coincidences" are significant and when they are not.
I don’t deny the fact of the similarity itself, but I proceed from the assumption that there is a diagram with planets nearby. If there is a relationship between the diagrams, then most likely, the Orem map is simply Earth.
(10-08-2026, 07:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Like which?@Linda found matches in the shapes of the lakes. She published it in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Similarly, there’s You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. where people look for matches between the castle with Rosette and real castles.
(10-08-2026, 06:35 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I confess that for someone like me—a lover of clarity and orderly thinking—the jumble of the recent posts makes me uncomfortable.Sorry, Antonio, but that’s exactly what this forum is for — for discussions and debates
(10-08-2026, 06:35 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What both diagrams have in common is that circle of protrusions representing the boundary of the medieval universe. And if we look at pages from Quire 13, such as You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and f75v, we see that those same protrusions form part of the tent-like canopy—itself a metaphor for the limit of the medieval cosmos.I can only see the bulges at the edges. That’s not enough.
What other similarities and connections can you find?

