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• RE: The Voynich Manuscript as an Iberian-African Voyage Record

  Kaybo > 9 hours ago

  (Yesterday, 06:37 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (28-10-2025, 10:06 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When I looked at the EVA translation, one thing that I don't understand is, why K and T should be different Symbols

  
  Well, these are the most common words with k (left) and t (right) in the Bio section:
  
     163 0.02387 qokedy       49 0.00718 otedy               
     153 0.02241 qokeedy      47 0.00688 qotedy             
     150 0.02197 qokain       39 0.00571 qoteedy             
     112 0.01640 qokal        27 0.00395 qoty               
      86 0.01260 qokaiin      25 0.00366 otain               
      86 0.01260 qokeey       25 0.00366 qotal               
      61 0.00893 qoky         24 0.00351 otar               
      45 0.00659 okedy        24 0.00351 oteedy             
      45 0.00659 qokar        22 0.00322 chcthy             
      43 0.00630 qokey        22 0.00322 tedy               
      42 0.00615 chckhy       21 0.00308 otal               
      41 0.00600 okain        21 0.00308 qotain             
      35 0.00513 okeedy       19 0.00278 oty                 
      33 0.00483 okaiin       17 0.00249 checthy             
      28 0.00410 shckhy       16 0.00234 oteey               
      24 0.00351 olkain       15 0.00220 otey               
      22 0.00322 okal         14 0.00205 qotar               
      21 0.00308 kedy         13 0.00190 qotaiin             
      21 0.00308 qokol        13 0.00190 shcthy             
      21 0.00308 sheckhy      13 0.00190 shecthy             
      20 0.00293 olkedy       12 0.00176 otaiin             
      19 0.00278 checkhy      11 0.00161 tal                 
      19 0.00278 keedy        11 0.00161 tchedy             
      19 0.00278 okar         11 0.00161 tol                 
      19 0.00278 olkeey        9 0.00132 otol               
      17 0.00249 okeey         9 0.00132 qotol               
      16 0.00234 olkeedy       8 0.00117 qotey               
      16 0.00234 sheky         8 0.00117 tar                 
      13 0.00190 kain          7 0.00103 qoteey             
      13 0.00190 oky           7 0.00103 ytedy               
      13 0.00190 olky          6 0.00088 sheety             
      12 0.00176 okey          6 0.00088 teey               
      12 0.00176 qokchdy       5 0.00073 chety               
      10 0.00146 cheeky        5 0.00073 otchedy             
      10 0.00146 ykeedy        5 0.00073 teol               
       9 0.00132 cheky         4 0.00059 shety               
       8 0.00117 chckhey       4 0.00059 tain               
       8 0.00117 kaiin         4 0.00059 tor                 
       8 0.00117 qokshedy      4 0.00059 tshedy             
       7 0.00103 kal           3 0.00044 cthdy               
       7 0.00103 lkedy         3 0.00044 cthedy             
       7 0.00103 olkaiin       3 0.00044 otaly               
       7 0.00103 qokor         3 0.00044 otchey             
       7 0.00103 ykeey         3 0.00044 otchy               
       6 0.00088 lkain         3 0.00044 oteol               
       6 0.00088 okol          3 0.00044 otshdy             
       6 0.00088 olkar         3 0.00044 qotchedy           
       6 0.00088 qokaly        3 0.00044 qotchy             
       6 0.00088 qokam         3 0.00044 taiin               
       6 0.00088 qokchedy      3 0.00044 tchdy
  
  While words with one of the two gallows also exist with the other one with roughly proportional frequencies (qokedy and qotedy, qokeedy and qoteedy, qoky and qoty, etc.), there are also many words that have very inconsistent frequencies (okedy and otedy, okar and otar, etc.)
  
  Thus the claim that k and t are just calligraphic variants of the same letter does not seem likely.
  
  Voynichese words are notoriously shorter than words in "European" languages, and as a consequence there are more pairs of words that differ only in one letter. 
  
  All the best, --stolfi

  
  I am not sure, you are right. But I dont get your reasoning completely. Because we have a very high count of the K variants and a lower count of T variations. All words with a high word counts have T variant. Because K to T is not the only substitution there could be words that have a lower count have more or less pairs or even no no pair. 
  
  However, there is another reason why I think its the same character. But I can't verify this at the moment.

• RE: The Voynich Manuscript as an Iberian-African Voyage Record

  Bluetoes101 > 7 hours ago

  If you look at individual cases it might become more apparent. 
  Using the Voynichese website so this will be wrong, but ballpark.. 
  
  lk = 1079
  lt = 107
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