Why and how the text could be Bavarian
A small forward test - actually too early, but it was requested Wink (oshfdk)

The test sentence comes from a medical recipe context:

"Der nem minzen und mull die und trauff den saft in das or"

Modern German 
Man nehme Minze und zermahle sie und träufle den Saft in das Ohr.

English: Take mint, grind it, and drip the juice into the ear.

The goal was not to prove a finished reading. The test was only meant to see whether a normal medical sentence can be transformed into a plausible Voynich-like surface using the current VBM rules.

However, many assumptions were made here. At this point I would say: this is only a first and theoretical forward test. Most of the assumptions are still very much assumptions Wink .

Working table used

C1 values, mostly based on the frequency test:
German / VMS
n -> k
r -> t
m -> ch
s/z -> o
l/ll -> sh
d -> l

C2 values / C2 routes:

Assumptions:
d(C2)+e -> ed.y.qo
n(C2)+e -> ed.y.o
(So there are two cases using ed with different following bridge values: d+vowel e and n+vowel e. The letter is defined through the following vowel bridge. This is the phenomenon I described above.

From the crib:
z/s(C2) -> o

Further assumptions:
m(C2) -> eod
tr(C2) -> cho

Vowel bridges:
Except for e, these are assumptions - partly plausible, but not yet secure.

e -> y.qo / y.o / l.ch
i -> y.ch
ie -> l.o
u -> sh.ch
au -> r.o
a -> r.ch / r.o
o -> l.o

Ending block:
-en -> aiin
aiin is used here as the ending block for the German ending -en. There are further rules around this, but that would go too far here.

LAM / start mode:
Assumption, simply set for this test:

ch -> LAM / start mode

Collapse forms:
und mull die -> und = ol = olshedy
und trauff -> und = ol = olchor op
in das or -> ar edrol oty (Y = LEM)

"Und" (and) and other short words are probably represented by such 1/2/3-glyph words or connection forms. This is still very uncertain!

Extremely provisional value, only for this test:
ff(C1) -> p

because this is simpler than a bench gallows.

Application to the sentence

Source sentence:

der nem minzen und mull die und trauff den saft in das or

Generated Voynich-like surface:

chedy qotedy ocheody chkoaiin olshedy olchor opedy qokor chpar edrol oty

Short segmentation:

der nem minzen
-> chedy qotedy ocheody chkoaiin

und mull die
-> olshedy

und trauff den saft
-> olchor opedy qokor chp

in das or
-> ar edrol oty (Y = LEM)
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The most important point of this small test is not the specific generated line itself. The point is that a normal medical sentence can be transformed into a clearly Voynich-like surface with the current VBM rules, if three levels are kept apart:

regular V/C stream
C1/C2 routes
collapse forms for short function words and connection groups

The result is not a proof. It is only a first forward test of the model. But in fact, with the VBM model, it is possible to generate a Voynich-like surface from a German sentence.
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