(29-03-2026, 07:56 PM)Stefan Wirtz_2 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@JoJo_Jost: you just confirmed here that „phonetic bavarian“ cannot work.
very funny....
No, it’s actually the other way around—you’ve just proven that you haven’t even begun to look into the cipher presented here and have simply started arguing off the cuff.
Because if you had even superficially examined the cipher, you would have quickly realized that double consonants are probably the lesser problem when it comes to the variability of this cipher.
But still: if it were only a matter of double consonants, that could easily be clarified by the context. That is easy...
But why on earth does everyone think that the VMS must be a perfect and good cipher? If it were, the text would likely have been deciphered long ago. But a chaotic, ill-conceived, and uninspired cipher based on a phonetically written dialect would have easily withstood all these attempts. Precisely because many people think just like you, Stefan
One should consider the time period: at the beginning of the 15th century, ciphers were mostly still very rudimentary. If a monk, provincial doctor, or someone else had developed an original cipher at that time wich is not a easy substitution cipher, it would certainly have been anything but sophisticated. It would likely have been chaotic and unstructured...
And if it is an absorption cipher in which a great deal of information was destroyed, as the statistics on the VMS clearly demonstrate, then “unambiguity” is simply NOT guaranteed. That would be an anachronism. The one thing - the destruction of information - does not fit with the other, unambiguity. Because at that time, there exist simply no cipher that could have done that; those didn’t exist until the end of the 15th century.
I think we’ve discussed the double consonants more than enough by now. It’s getting boring. That’s not even remotely an argument against the cipher; there are much better ones that I’d actually agree with as criticism - believe me.
But after several hundred years of trying to crack it, you have to realize that you need to think outside the box...

