08-11-2025, 02:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2025, 03:22 PM by Doireannjane.
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(08-11-2025, 12:20 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(08-11-2025, 01:06 AM)Doireannjane wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yeah for sure! Let me know if you need more. Thank you for reviewing my work. I wrote them on an image thinking it would be easier on you but the text saved so fuzzy ah.
Here's 84r in order left to right :
Thank you! I think it would be easier if I just provide images with numbered labels, starting from the top of my collection. This is the bottom of 82v. Could you give readings and translations for these?
Sure! Yes much easier. I included 84r again as well but cleaned up from my last response so you have it all in one place. Also,
82v I have noted that the furthest top left corner odd word (ending chars order is strange), this might be a depiction of mimicking (!)
Possibly a word adjacent to mimicking in irish
athléamh, v.t. (pres. -éann, fut. -ifidh, vn. -éamh, pp. -ite).
1. Reread. 2. (With ar) Mimic.
Here is from the tube arch from bottom of 82v:
number 1:
(silent a) fuill, v.t. (vn. ~eamh). Lit: Add to, increase.
number 3 (keep in mind half tower, fh and bh are often fuh and vuh sounds in modern irish, so represented with the one character):
->libh á/ lifh á
le1, prep. (Pron. forms: liom, leat, leis m, léi f, linn, libh, leo) (Prefixes h to vowel, becomes leis before article. S.a. AN1. Combines (i) with possessive adjectives a, ár to form lena, lenár, (ii) with relative particles a, ar to form lena, lenar) With; to, for; by, against. 1. (a) In proximity to, in contact with, beside.
ruled out:
fhoill- slight/light
fuil- blood
bhfuil- to be
number 2 :
note a fada with subtle extra syllable is represented oo, this is not common. see trá on 35r (pollen page, also on my Tiktok)
(silent a) fáfall, m. (gs. -aill). 1. Easing off (of rain, of pain, of activity). 2. Backwater, slack water. 3. Shelter.
number 4:
feadóg, f. (gs. -óige, npl. ~a, gpl. ~). 1. (Of instrument) Whistle. ~ stáin, tin whistle. ~ mhór, flute. ~ bósain, boatswain’s pipe. Seinm ar fheadóg, to play a whistle. An fheadóg a shéideadh, to blow the whistle. 2. Orn: Plover. ~ chladaigh, ringed plover. ~ ghlas, grey plover. ~ shléibhe, golden plover. ~ mhara, (species of) sandpiper. 3. Tall thin woman.
Also related are these words:
feadánach, a1. 1. Tubular; vascular. 2. Whistling, wheezing.
and the diminutive of:
feadh1, m. (gs. ~a). 1. Extent, distance, space, duration. An ~ idir dhá rud, the space between two things.
number 5:
(uncertain)
athadh1, m. (gs. & npl. -aidh, gpl. ~). Lit: Elopement.
I thought this was modern but alas: "The term "elopement" originates from the Middle Dutch word "ontlopen," meaning "to run away," and has evolved to specifically refer to a secret marriage, often without parental consent. Historically, it also implied a broader sense of escape or fleeing, with its romantic connotation developing by the 17th century."-etymology.com
number 6:
(closest phonetically not exact)
athdhéan, v.t. (vn. ~amh). Redo, remake. Ní féidir thú a ~amh, you are incorrigible.
number 7:
(silent a)faoi1, prep. (Pron. forms: fúm, fút, faoi m, fúithi f, fúinn, fúibh, fúthu) (Lenites; combines (i) with article an to form faoin, (ii) with possessive adjectives a, ár, to form faoina, faoinár, (iii) with relative particles a, ar, to form faoina, faoinar) I. Under. 1. (a) Beneath, below.
possible: (silent a) faí, f. (gs. ~, pl. ~the). 1. Voice, note; cry, call; whine, lament.
number 8:
verb form of:
athadh1, m. (gs. & npl. -aidh, gpl. ~). Lit: Elopement.
Here's 84r again properly organized :
Furthest left: Lovely
álainn, a. (gsm. ~, gsf., npl. & comp. áille). 1. Beautiful, lovely. Aghaidh, teach, áit, ~, beautiful face, house, place. Is ~ an aimsir í, it is beautiful weather. 2. Delightful. B’~ le mo chroí iad, they were my heart’s delight. 3. Thuig sé go h~ é, he understood it perfectly. (Var: gsf., npl. & comp. ~e)
---possibly aithleá, m. (gs. ~, pl. ~nna). Light breeze. ~ fuar gaoithe, cold breath of wind.
Furthest right: Expelled
Adjective version of díbir, v.t. (pres. -bríonn, vn. ~t, pp. -beartha). 1. Drive out, banish, expel. Duine a dhíbirt as áit, to drive s.o. out of a place. Díbríodh as Éirinn iad, they were expelled from Ireland. Dhíbir sé a chlann, he banished his children. ~ na madraí sin, drive away those dogs. ~ as d’intinn é, put it out of your mind. Taibhse a dhíbirt, to lay a ghost. Deamhan a dhíbirt, to cast out a demon. 2. Mth: Ch: Physiol: Eliminate.
Left to right in center (each segment noted):
ag - a or of
breabhsóg, f. (gs. -óige, npl. ~a, gpl. ~). Spruce, sprightly, woman.
in or at
feadán, m. (gs. & npl. -áin, gpl. ~). 1. Tube.
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(silent a) feadhain, f. (gs. & pl. -dhna). Band, troop, company.
form of either:
láínteacht, f. (gs. ~a). Blandishment, fondling. Ag ~ le, blandishing, fondling.
or
láithreán, m. (gs. & npl. -áin, gpl. ~). 1. Piece of ground; place, site.
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dhabhach/dabhach: (gs. daibhche, pl. dabhcha). 1. Vat, tub. ~ folctha, bath-tub. Shuighan ~ air, (of brewer) the vat failed to ferment for him; Fig: his plan miscarried. 2. Deepwater-hole; pool, pond. ~ lín, flax-pond. ~ éisc, fish-pond. 3. Holy well.
A fada = it in this context
Bronn - Grants/Bestows
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atha1, f. (gs. ~). Space of time. I gceann ~, after a while. ~ fhada, a long while. Le h~, for some time.
-(with diminutive) a little space of time
áibhéil2, a1. 1. Great, vast. Radharc ~, great, wonderful, scene. Is ~ an aois atá aige, he is a great age. 2. Terrible. Is ~ an scéal é, it is a terrible affair.
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A diminutive of
fabhra, m. (gs. ~, pl. ~í). 1. Eyelash. Níor leag mé ~ aréir, I did not close an eye, sleep a wink, last night. ~í an lae, peep of day. Féachaint faoi d’fhabhraí ar dhuine, to steal a glance at s.o. 2. (Eye)brow. Thug sé faoi na ~í dó é, he let him have it between the eyes. Chuir siad fuil as ~í lena chéile, they battered one another. ~ cnoic, brow of hill. 3. (pl.) ~í (éadaigh), fringe (of cloth).
athlán, m. (gs. -áin). 1. Refill. 2. Second earthing (of plants).
