16-12-2023, 08:49 PM
(16-12-2023, 07:32 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, I also believe in a certain analogy with Llull's work, but more from the point of view of combinatorial mechanics than intentionality, given that in the Voynich there is no religious intention as there is in Llull. I'm inclined to see the VM more inspired by the Volvelles, which is another mode of primitive analog computing but more focused on astronomy. I believe that the VM script is made by transcribing the glyphs inscribed on superimposed wheels in the manner of the Volvelles.
I'm glad, Hermes777, that you cite Friedman, who was the first to see a possible combinatorial system in the VM script. According to his final conclusions, he believed that each glyph was a symbol with its own meaning and that each vord was a combination of glyphs.
We should distinguish between Llull himself and later Llullism. By the 1400s there was a spurious literature in Llull's name and he had become associated with alchemy and astrology and other 'low arts'. Cusanus dedicated himself to Llull's more Christian, inter-religious and theological works - against those who regarded Llull as heretical. As you say, the Voynich is not theological or pious - it is only nominally Christian. But there were contemporary devotees of Llull with other interests - notably Giovanni Fontana. I agree, he would be using Llull's methods without Llull's mission.
I'm with Friedman: "he believed that each glyph was a symbol with its own meaning and that each vord was a combination of glyphs.." But what then are the meaning of the glyphs? That becomes the only question that matters.
I note that the glyphs are an eclectic assortment of letters, numbers, abbreviatiions etc., mainly but perhaps not exclusively from Latin conventions. In English it would be like making an alphabet from characters taken from across the keyboard, such as: S&7uL?9H. This strongly suggests the glyphs were selected independent of their conventional significations and according to some other (non-linguistic) criteria, visual shape perhaps?

