04-06-2021, 06:59 PM
(02-06-2021, 06:00 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.All I want to say is that we must surrender to the evidence. Many members of this forum have spent years, like me, researching medieval manuscripts looking for parallels with the Voynich.
If anyone has ever seen a glyph like EVA-l that was not used as the old number 4 to say it and show it, because I have not seen it. And obviously the glyph that looks like the number 8 in the VM is most likely to represent the number 8 as well. I have already said that for me they are astronomical symbols, just like all the other glyphs.
There is enormous resistance to accepting that there is nothing to read. The script is not legible, but it does make sense. It has a meaning for the humanity of the 15th century who believed in the power of the stars
(03-06-2021, 03:18 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are right, my theory has no scientific background because it is not 21st century science. Understanding the VM requires another type of science, that of the 15th century.
Surrender to the evidence, yes, but what is evidence? Appearance would seem to be evidence, but it can be weak evidence. Appearance is subjective. Appearance can be deceptive.
Better evidence can be found in things that are objective. Position, number, structure, color are objective.
In the investigation of VMs glyphs from the "4 by 17'" sequence, starting with EVA-o, There are three interpretations of the fifth glyph in the sequence, EVA-v, and each has its matching, structural confirmation:
Greek alpha-numeric: EVA-o and EVA-v, properly distanced as lambda and omicron, going right to left, which was valid in Greek.
Medieval numeric: EVA-l and EVA v, properly distanced as numbers 4 and 7. Reference to Typus Arithmetica.
Latin numeric: Eva-v looks like the Roman numeral 5 (inverted) and in is in position five in the sequence.
So this is not just appearance, not just subjective interpretation. Each interpretation has a relevant, objective, positional confirmation. Is this evidence? All three interpretations are overlaid. Is this an occurrence by chance?
What is needed here is 15th century science, as you say. The 15th century science of Oresme's BNF Fr. 565 and de Metz' Harley 334. But even more than 15th century science, we need the whole 15th century 'mind-set', including the Valois version of mythical Melusine, the bathing Muses of Christine de Pizan, armorial and religious heraldry, cloud bands and cosmic boundaries, along with religious tradition (the cardinal's red galero), religious history (the Fieschi popes) and religious events (La Sainte Hostie de Dion), and more. It is, in a way, a discovery and recovery of medieval semiotics that is necessary before seeking their 'idiosyncratic' VMs interpretations and uses (papelonny).

