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[Linda]

Two tubes coming out of the star-studded celestial globe. They are the same tubes that we see in the Rosette folio.

I think those are poles on Tratado f88. North and south poles.

I disagree, i think it shows the equinoctial, given the draped ecliptic. Although it occurs to me that this example seems to show the draped side would be the other side. Might be a reference issue, not sure.

The VMS structures appear to be tubes, they are drawn with dark centers, and they point in multiple directions, and are in clusters. They are quite different from the ones in the Tratado, and don't appear to be the same thing.

I don't know what they mean in the VMS, but I saw one manuscript in which steam vents were drawn as pipes. Ellie has pointed out that pipes are also used for cannon barrels/gun barrels, and gunpowder (saltpeter) containers. Pipes have many meanings in medieval manuscripts.

Regardless of poles or equators, the multiplicity of tubelike imagery in the rosettes would tend to point toward them being something else, removed from the so-called tubes of the Tratado page. Once that page is explained by an expert, i think it will show that these are specific points in the universe, and are therefore not possible to be the random tubes through which starlight travels to earth that Antonio has proposed them to be. Maybe the rosettes tubes are what he says, but the Tratado example is no support for that stance.