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JKP, I think you contradict yourself. You said that only a few of the glyphs are unknown, one of them Eva-t. And now you say that Eva-t can also be found in Latin and Greek scripts.

Yes, EVA-t can be found in Greek and Latin texts, but it is rare. That's why I prefer to not include it most of the time I talk about the glyphs. It does exist. Benched glyphs also exist in Latin texts, but they are rare. They are more common in Greek texts. So I set them aside when I am talking about Latin texts because they were not common.

It's not a contradiction. It's that I try to stay away from generalizations about the more rare glyphs. The fact that they are uncommon means I prefer to keep thinking about other possible origins.

I looked quite thoroughly into the talismanic alphabets, enough that I learned what the letters were and could read a little bit of it. But I did not see any overall similarity to talismanic characters, only a couple of similarities that might be coincidental.

These talismanic characters can sometimes be found in Latin translations of Semitic texts (mostly Hebrew). The Kabbalistic line-loop characters are related to the ancient talismanic characters (perhaps derived from them, but I'm not sure). So even these are in Latin texts, but they are not of Latin origin.


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Only a few of the VMS glyphs are unknown, the benched ascenders in particular, but I have made it clear that the CONCEPT of benching existed in Greek scribal conventions. In fact, it was very common in Greek. It's the specific combination that is uncommon. The VMS shapes almost all exist in Latin. The concept of the gallows chars exists in Greek. There are a couple of rare characters in the VMS, they are hardly used at all, that can be found in Coptic Greek, Old Russian, and sometimes in astronomical texts. This rare shape is found in several languages, just as the letters "a" and "o" are found in several languages.


I don't know why there is so much resistance to accepting that most of the VMS shapes are consistent with Latin shapes. They are. It's not opinion, it's fact.

These glyphs are all common in Latin: a u o e r s k b n c ch sh g m h l d y ' ↄ q  and maybe i (except it doesn't usually lean like that). x is found in Coptic manuscripts and Latin and Greek astronomical texts. 

That covers the majority of the VMS glyphs.

Greek concepts might explain the rest of the gallows chars. I'm not absolutely sure the benched gallows are based on Greek, but benching and superposition are common in Greek, especially with shapes like the ones in the VMS, so it's the best explanation I have so far. I'll keep looking for others, I always do, but I've spent years looking at alphabets and I haven't seen anything that comes closer yet.

Yes, there are a couple of shapes in talismanic alphabets that are similar to EVA-t and EVA-k, the lines and small loops are part of how they are constructed. I have long since acknowledged these, and they were known in the west through translations of Kabbalistic texts, but the talismanic alphabet overall, does not resemble Voynichese.


There are 21 VMS glyphs that are commonly found in Latin texts and a couple that exist but are less common. That looks like a majority to me. Does it mean it's Latin? No, of course not. Shape-origin and meaning are separate issues.