BessAgritianin's theory thread

[nablator]

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[Oscroft]

Threads merged, thanks Ruby.

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Ah, that's an even earlier thread - perhaps graft this merged one onto the end of that one and then rename the whole thing?

[nablator]

So could you provide us with an extract here that provides a detailed translation of a couple of lines, in the form requested by Jorge Stolfi?

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[Koen G]

All threads merged, do tell me if you see another part of Bess theory running around somewhere 

[pjburkshire]

It has been reported that the "S" character alone means "with" in Old Czech (Bohemian).  The "S" character appears alone many times in the Voynich Manuscript.  Of course we can't be sure that the EVA "S" was really intended to be "S".  Can you comment on that?

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S - "with"
S přáteli. (With friends.)
S knihou. (With a book.)
S rodinou. (With family.)

[BessAgritianin]

It has been reported that the "S" character alone means "with" in Old Czech (Bohemian).  The "S" character appears alone many times in the Voynich Manuscript.  Of course we can't be sure that the EVA "S" was really intended to be "S".  Can you comment on that?

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S - "with"
S přáteli. (With friends.)
S knihou. (With a book.)
S rodinou. (With family.)

Thank you for your question, In my readings the EVA S is not "s". Remember that EVA transcription is modern and my readings do not agree with its transliteration. 

Also on the other hand I have not read the whole document, nor do I understand everything.

From the narrow translations I have been sure of- the author uses the Instrumental case - these are the endings of the words without "s" in front. For example instead of "s vodou" only "vodou"- by means of water with water
A real example in f2r:  
   
Read as Rucho ijMja  from rucho- bandage is formed  ruchoiMja- with bandage.
And here is another important finding-
 In VM the cases are separated visually- when a reader sees rucho + ijMja
he ponders what is this strange word " ijMja".
The short words that appear frequently in VM are not separate words but grammatical endings. This is why the text resists simple substitution.
I hope that my answer is not censored and reaches you.
I have noticed that some of my answeres have been held for approval.

[pjburkshire]

I'm glad you are still reading and participating on this forum.  I wish more people with knowledge of Slavic languages would take an interest in the Voynich Manuscript.  The research so far has been very off balance towards Western European languages.

[ololololo]

I wish more people with knowledge of Slavic languages would take an interest in the Voynich Manuscript.

I would really like the work to be of high quality...

[Koen G]

Bess, you have received warnings for pushing your translation theory into other threads. This comes after several earlier warnings and complaints from several members. Since your warning level is now at 50%, your posts will need to be approved before they appear. This will expire in about three weeks.

In short, if you want to talk about your translation theory, you can do so in your thread. In other threads, this is considered off-topic.

[pjburkshire]

I would really like the work to be of high quality...

So long as the common belief is that the Voynich Manuscript is a hoax or forgery, serious scholars are not going to touch it.  They are not going to risk tarnishing their professional reputations with association with a hoax.  The first obstacle is to convince serious scholars that the Voynich Manuscript is a legitimate historical artifact that is worthy of research.  We need to find a way to get the 15th century language experts talking to the A.I. experts.  Right now these two groups of people live in two different worlds and are not communicating with each other.