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• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  project963 > 21-03-2025, 01:21 PM

  I thought most things where explained in the presentation.
  
  I use theories from books on development of a Turing machine learning. It's what pop culture calls Chatgtp today. But its old news in tech world.
  
  So I wanted to make a model on how to learn a machine to analyse unknown language. To do that I used a four digit code system + a letter. What I did next was to divide the spreadsheet in categories as the number of words increased. Then I thought that I saw a pattern; that the first letters had a meaning, like a category. Then one thing led to another, and I started to use human intuition and brute force to test names and purpose. So far the model seem to work.
  
  And I can only repeat that this is mainly a language model building project, not a voynich dream project on what someone wish the book to be about. This is because when u are using a preprogrammed model on previous not analysised text, anything can happen, and in worst case, the model starts to produce gibberish and will be stopped.
  
  I go as new knowledge shows, and the newest addition, 67r2, shows no Zodiac, but a calendar. Next week I will analyse the new words and use sub cross method to identity new words from 67r2. This version of 67r2 is therefore just a draft that I only use to identify thematic direction.
  
  If anyone want my guess of that this book is about, my guess it's that it could be a school book on plants, how to plant them, where to find them and what to use them to. 
  
  And, yes, incl. water plants.

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  Rafal > 21-03-2025, 01:37 PM

  Thank you for the explantation. It wasn't really obvious that by talking about Turing machine you actually mean ChatGPT.

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  ReneZ > 21-03-2025, 11:33 PM

  (21-03-2025, 01:37 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It wasn't really obvious that by talking about Turing machine you actually mean ChatGPT.

  
  I don't think that that is what he said...

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  project963 > 22-03-2025, 10:41 AM

  (21-03-2025, 11:50 AM)Pepper Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

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  (20-03-2025, 05:32 PM)Pepper Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What is the proposed translation of daiin? (Sorry, I don't know how to get Voynichese characters to show up)

  
  From the Excel dictionary file: newer.
  
  Select the EVA text, then click the "A" (font) icon -> EVA. Like this: daiin

  
  
  DAIIN 
  Excellent, thanks!
  
  So 2% (ish) of the manuscript's contents is 'newer'. I think that's all I need to know about this translation.

  Just a small ad on info here; according to the model I use you should also see the sub category in its context; newer here is used like in "newer history".

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  project963 > 28-03-2025, 10:21 PM

  I just finished analyzing 67r2. Status so far is that the model now has 108 translation words (of 760+ analysed individual words).
  
  I'm have also started to read Aristotle biology because of some similarities with his work at Island of Lesboes.

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  project963 > 31-03-2025, 07:27 AM

  About the 57v, in the 3 circle there are a sequence of 4 x 17 glyphs. Some are the same some are different. My guess is that it's a 4 year cycle with a leap year as the nr 4 sequence. You can see that they wrote glyph 1 og 2 in the beginning of the fourth sequence much closer than sequence 1 to 3.
  
  Leap year is an old invention. People had this knowledge in ancient times.

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  Ruby Novacna > 31-03-2025, 04:48 PM

  I don't understand, do the glyphs represent years, months, days?

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  Aga Tentakulus > 31-03-2025, 07:16 PM

  Do you know how to take someone's lead on this question?
  
  Neither, it's a cycle (Zyklus)

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  R. Sale > 31-03-2025, 07:46 PM

  Interpretation is based on appearance. Interpretation is verified by structure because structure is objective.
  
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  All three interpretive systems are either numeric or alpha-numeric, but how is it supposed to work?

• RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text

  project963 > 31-03-2025, 07:52 PM

  I found out the rest just hours later, this is how its constructed:
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