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• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  R. Sale > 23-01-2025, 05:11 PM

  From a European perspective in 1400-1450, who would have been using this information? Does the Eleven Phases indicate a Byzantine connection?

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 23-01-2025, 07:48 PM

  (23-01-2025, 05:11 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.From a European perspective in 1400-1450, who would have been using this information? Does the Eleven Phases indicate a Byzantine connection?

  Parts of the cipher manuscript could possibly be a creative compilation of information from much older texts.

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 23-01-2025, 08:05 PM

  (22-01-2025, 03:55 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
  The 72 bumps on the outer ring are interesting too...

  A simple interpretation of the 72 bumps is that the outer ring probably shows the 36 zodiac decans (2 x 36 = 72).

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  R. Sale > 23-01-2025, 10:05 PM

  (23-01-2025, 07:48 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (23-01-2025, 05:11 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.From a European perspective in 1400-1450, who would have been using this information? Does the Eleven Phases indicate a Byzantine connection?

  Parts of the cipher manuscript could possibly be a creative compilation of information from much older texts.

  
  Yes, but is there some sort of historical context for the use of these ideas in the 15th century?

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 24-01-2025, 12:24 PM

  (23-01-2025, 10:05 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, but is there some sort of historical context for the use of these ideas in the 15th century?

  Due to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. during the 15th century, it is possible that old manuscripts (including numerological ones) from the Greek territories were preserved by retreating Europeans and found their way to Venice, the Old Swiss Confederacy, France and Germany. 
  
  Perhaps some numerological aspects (11, 22, and 33 are known as Master Numbers) of the number 11 were known to the author(s) of the cipher manuscript.

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 27-01-2025, 01:22 AM

  The text in the lunar folio ends in "99" which occurs only once in the entire manuscript.
  There are other duplication choices, like '44', '4040', 'rr', gallows duplication, etc., which never occur in the manuscript.

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 27-01-2025, 01:11 PM

  The attached image shows the word tokens in the folio as follows:
  
  - word tokens appearing only once in the folio (yellow background);
  
  - word tokens appearing more than once in the folio (turquoise background); and
  
  - word tokens appearing also in longer word tokens in the folio (pink background).

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  nablator > 27-01-2025, 01:59 PM

  (27-01-2025, 01:22 AM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The text in the lunar folio ends in "99" which occurs only once in the entire manuscript.

  
  Yes.
  
  

  Quote:There are other duplication choices, like '44', '4040', 'rr', gallows duplication, etc., which never occur in the manuscript.

  
  Really? Where?

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 27-01-2025, 02:39 PM

  (27-01-2025, 01:59 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
  

  Quote:There are other duplication choices, like '44', '4040', 'rr', gallows duplication, etc., which never occur in the manuscript.

  
  
  
  Really? Where?

  Nowhere, said duplication choices never occur in the entire manuscript.

• RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v?

  nablator > 27-01-2025, 03:05 PM

  (27-01-2025, 02:39 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Nowhere, said duplication choices never occur in the entire manuscript.

  
  I misunderstood.
  
  There is another "yy" on the same page: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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