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• RE: How to prove that the B-language is not Greek?

  Ruby Novacna > 30-10-2025, 07:34 PM

  Words keol.chokeol
  
  The two words in line 30 of 108v « keol (20) chokeol (5) » can be read as « νέοι γονιοί » – the young (or new) parents.

• RE: How to prove that the B-language is not Greek?

  Ruby Novacna > 01-11-2025, 07:36 PM

  Words deeeoskol and ochepalain of 67v
  
  In this post, I examine two words from folio 67v.
  The first is ochepalain that can transcribe the Greek word ακεφαλειν, the infinitive of ἀκεφαλόω – remove the head.
  To be honest, I haven’t found an example of this verb yet.
  What I found is the verb κεφαλόω – to have a head and the word ἀκέφᾰλος – headless. I hope that ἀκεφαλόω can be found as well.
  However, ἀκέφᾰλος means not only « headless, » but also « without beginning » or « degraded »; perhaps the verb could also have one of these meanings.
  
  The second word to examine is « deeeoskol, » unique in the text.
  I think it would be better to transcribe it as dcheoskol and I read it as 8hiosmoi and think it might transcribe the Greek word θειασμοί, plural of θειασμός – divine inspiration, superstition, omen.

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 23-02-2026, 02:04 PM

  Word EVA ofchdamy
  
  A few years ago, I tried to understand the label of the nymph walking on nails. Since then, I have slightly modified my interpretation.
  The label is transcribed in two different ways: «ofchdady» and «ofchdamy» (in EVA).
  Today, I propose considering the reading of this label as afh8ar89, afh8ars9, or afh8as89.
  

  1. The word afh8ar89 can transcribe the Greek word ἄφθαρτος – uncorrupted, undecaying; incorruptible; eternal; immortal.
     
  2. The word afh8ars9 can transcribe the word ἀφθαρσίας, gen of ἀφθαρσία – incorruption, immortality.
     
  3. The word ἄφθαστος (Byzantine) means unapproachable, unreachable, inaccessible; which is not ripe; which did not happen. The adverb ἀφθάστως is synonymous with ἀκιχήτως – not to be reached, unattainable; not to be reached by prayer, inexorable.
     

  
  I hope that at least one of these terms might serve as a clue to explaining the meaning of our nymph.

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 27-02-2026, 07:30 PM

  Word EVA oklairdy
  
  A nymph on page 72r2 has a label «oklairdy». 
  I propose reading this word as «onlair89» or «oniair89».
  There is no exact equivalent in Greek; however, transcribing it as ανιαιστος, we can find the words ἀνίαστος = ἀνίητος = ἀνίᾱτος – incurable, also in a moral sense; of persons, incurable, incorrigible.
  Another way to read it could be ανιαιτρος for ἀνίητρος = ἀνίᾱτρος – no-physician; Adj., unworthy of a physician. Or perhaps it comes from the verb ἀνιᾱτρεύω – heal again?
  
  Before I rack my brains trying to choose between «incurable» and «healed», I wonder what the labels on nymphs, in general, are supposed to describe?

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  pjburkshire > 27-02-2026, 08:03 PM

  (27-02-2026, 07:30 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
  Word EVA oklairdy
  
  A nymph on page 72r2 has a label «oklairdy». 
  I propose reading this word as «onlair89» or «oniair89».
  

  
  
  oklairdy ( oklairdy ) looks correct to me.

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 27-02-2026, 10:18 PM

  (27-02-2026, 08:03 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oklairdy ( oklairdy ) looks correct to me.

  
  Do you have a suggestion for its meaning?

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  pjburkshire > 27-02-2026, 10:29 PM

  (27-02-2026, 10:18 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
  Do you have a suggestion for its meaning?
  

  
  
  I don't have a clue what it means.  I can tell you what I don't think it is.  I don't think it is the name of the star or the name of the nymph.  It could be any kind of daily Zodiac/Horoscope type thing or something else entirely.

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 04-03-2026, 12:51 AM

  Words EVA otchedain, otedain and oteedain
  In this post, I examine three words that I currently consider equivalent:

  • otchedain (1) – obhi8ain,
    
  • otedain (3) – obi8ain,
    
  • oteedain (2) – obu8ain.
    

  Could these words be a form of the Byzantine Greek verb ἀβιτεύω, itself derived from the Latin verb habeo – to hold, to have?

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 04-03-2026, 09:25 AM

  Words EVA oteot-
  
  In the text of our manuscript, there are five words beginning with oteot-(oteo,t-):
  

  1. oteotey (5);
     
  2. oteotor/ oteoto[s:r] (1);
     
  3. oteo,teeody/ oteoteeody (1);
     
  4. oteoteotsho (1);
     
  5. oteoteedy (1).
     

  Currently, I have an idea for two of these words: oteotey and oteo,teeody/oteoteeody.
  
  We find the word oteotey on the « astronomical » page 68v1, twice on page 70v2, Pisces; on 71r Aries (light) and on 72v2 Virgo.
  The word oteo,teeody/ oteoteeody appears on page f72r1 Taurus (dark).
  
  According to LSJ, ἀβέβαιος means unreliable, of remedies; of persons, unstable, fickle; the adverb ἀβεβαίως means with inconstancy.
  The word ἀβεβαιότης means instability. In Byzantine Greek, ἀβεβαίωτος means changeable, unstable (unbeständig).
  
  These words exist in Modern Greek:

  • αβέβαιος – uncertain, unsure, doubtful; unclear;
    
  • αβεβαίωτος – unconfirmed, not ascertained; (taxation) not determined.
    

  The meaning in Ancient Greek is perhaps closer to the images.

• RE: Ruby's Greek Thread

  Ruby Novacna > 05-03-2026, 01:54 PM

  I had inadvertently skipped a sentence in my text: 
  " I read these two words as abiobi9 and abiobu(ei)o89 and I think they may correspond to the Greek words ἀβέβαιος and ἀβεβαιότης."
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