Davidsch > 09-12-2021, 09:39 PM
pfeaster > 10-12-2021, 03:55 PM
(09-12-2021, 09:39 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is a possible problem that arises in a part (I described it somewhere on this forum..) where the pages are foldouts.
The horizontal lines are there twice as long, and it causes statistical issues.
I suggest you manually break those up into the average vord-length first.
Davidsch > 14-12-2021, 01:20 AM
pfeaster > 14-12-2021, 02:13 PM
(14-12-2021, 01:20 AM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For the Daiin image: I do not understand why the red bar is there so in the middle and not more evenly distributed,
more something like the Ok-ot image. Could I ask you once more (sorry) to explain what we are looking at here in the daiin image, what explains the pixels filled and what if they are black?
pfeaster > 14-12-2021, 05:37 PM
(01-12-2021, 04:11 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Another side of the subject is the possible impact of page layout. In particular, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. I noticed that image-breaks (frequent in Herbal pages) appear to have an effect on nearby words. The extra-long lines in the Pharma section might also be of interest.
RenegadeHealer > 14-12-2021, 09:44 PM
pfeaster > 15-12-2021, 12:54 AM
(14-12-2021, 09:44 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco, if I recall correctly, the take away lesson from that study of yours is that vords to the immediate left of images tend to be typical line-final vords, and vords to the immediate right of images tend to be typical line-initial vords.
(14-12-2021, 09:44 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Patrick, I seem to recall that your current understanding of labels in the VMs, is that of functional line units of a single vord. In other words, a label tends to begin like a typical line-initial vord, and end like a typical line-final vord.
(14-12-2021, 09:44 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Given Patrick's demonstration of downward effects at the paragraph and page level, and the old problems of Grove words and the affinity of [f] and [p] for the first lines of paragraphs, it wouldn't surprise me if Voynichese also contains apparent metadata for "start a new page", "same paragraph new line", "new line new paragraph", and other formatting and line placement instructions.
(14-12-2021, 09:44 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The question then becomes, what kind of information, recorded and shared and of value to people in the early 1400s, would have benefitted from having this kind of formatting and placement metadata attached to it?
obelus > 19-12-2021, 10:15 AM
MarcoP > 19-12-2021, 07:00 PM
nablator > 19-12-2021, 07:27 PM
(19-12-2021, 07:00 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Wow, the diagonal diagram for 'shol' and the triangular one for *ta* are amazing! Patrick's visualization method is great and I love how Obelus is adding to Patrick's findings...Very well done !