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Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
- Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
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RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
-JKP- > 04-10-2019, 08:23 AM
One could say that most research is a waste of time, but the cumulative wisdom that gradually emerges has given us better lives than we would have had 600 years ago. -
RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
bi3mw > 04-10-2019, 01:42 PM
I would say that dealing with the VMS is only a waste of time if one quickly put together a "solution" free of any background knowledge. Which does not mean that every (wrong) solution is bad. It can indicate a direction or generate ideas. Even in falsity, there can be a grain of truth. That's why I always try to be unbiased, even if it's sometimes very difficult.
However, I would not read a book several hundred pages long, if the cover text already shows that the system is fundamentally wrong -
RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
RobGea > 04-10-2019, 04:59 PM
In the Gladyseva image that JKP posted the 4 lines are actually one repeated line.
Rendered here as 2 lines:
My quick transliteration:
AAB CDDE FGH I JGK LDMNO GPB F
AAB QRST UG V.... {oops, ran out of alphabet
}
A couple of attempted solutions:
MME BOOK ITS P UTC WORLD THE I MME ???? AT N
BBC FOOD MEN I GET WORKS E?C M BBC JULY HE A
As a substitution cipher it does illustrate the point that interpretation of a ligature as a single glyph or not adds a layer of difficulty.
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RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
Koen G > 10-02-2020, 12:15 AM
I just read the abstract where she talks about polyalphabetic ciphers. Wouldn't a polyalphabetic cipher produce the opposite of what we see in the VM? -
RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
-JKP- > 10-02-2020, 04:04 AM
There's nothing to see... An abstract with a bit of cryptographic history picked from here and there without any cohesive connections, and some images of the "ven mus mel" and zodiac-figure labels. Nothing more. Another teaser with no substance. -
RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
-JKP- > 17-08-2020, 02:51 PM
"Voynich Alisa Gladyseva2018.ttf Patent 2020-06-24 | patent Voynich_Alisa_Gladyseva2018.ttf Patent on the fonts of the real and deciphered alphabet of the Voynich Manuscript.Copyright: ©2018-2020 ALISA GLADYSEVA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED."
This looks like nonsense to me. First of all, patents are rarely given for typefaces and since Gladyseva did not design the "real" Voynich alphabet, she is not the inventor. It also costs quite a bit of money to file for patents and it takes several years for them to be approved.
As for the deciphered alphabet, if her decipherment is expressed with the Latin alphabet, it's not eligible for patent either, since she did not invent the Latin alphabet. It's been around for centuries.
Patents are for novel inventions (and sometimes for novel inventions of processes).
Copyrights are for original designs.
Neither the "real" Voynich alphabet nor the Latin alphabet can be claimed to be invented or designed by Gladyseva.
She still hasn't shown us her supposed 100s of pages of deciphered VMS text.
So far all I see are publicity stunts. -
RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
-JKP- > 17-08-2020, 02:57 PM
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RE: Alisa Gladyseva: Voynich manuscript is decoded
bi3mw > 17-08-2020, 03:00 PM
I would also say that the whole thing is pretty weird. Meanwhile one can start to doubt if anything substantial is coming in the future.
The following ISBN number is also given, but there is no book for it:
Deciphering of the whole text of the Voynich manuscript by Alisa Gladyševa / Alisa Gladyševa. – Vilnius : A.
Gladyševa, 2019. – 700 p.. – ISBN 978-609-475-419-7