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  Antonio García Jiménez > Yesterday, 07:40 PM

  It doesn't surprise me that you think that way. Our society has extended the respect for all opinions of liberal democracy to respect for all opinions in any field of knowledge. But no. There are authorities in iconography, medicine, or architecture, and there are also authorities in carpentry or automotive mechanics. You either know about a subject or you don't. Of course there can be mistakes, but that does not invalidate the principle of authority.
  
    However difficult the Voynich manuscript may be to interpret, it is a 15th-century human creation and therefore must have an explanation. Can just anyone get it right? I don't think so.

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  Ruby Novacna > Yesterday, 08:22 PM

  (Yesterday, 07:40 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Our society has extended the respect for all opinions of liberal democracy to respect for all opinions in any field of knowledge.

  
  Are you saying, Antonio, that in the history of science there have never been opinions contrary to those of the authorities at the time that ultimately prevailed?

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  Antonio García Jiménez > Yesterday, 09:23 PM

  Of course I'm not saying that. Aristotle was an authority for centuries in many fields, and he isn't today. But you can't equate the history of science with a problem of interpreting a 15th-century document. 
  
   I am simply maintaining that Panofsky was an expert in iconography and that his opinion deserves due attention, enough to call into question the conventional interpretation of the female figures in Quire 13

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  Jorge_Stolfi > 3 hours ago

  (Yesterday, 07:40 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are authorities in iconography, medicine, or architecture, and there are also authorities in carpentry or automotive mechanics. You either know about a subject or you don't. Of course there can be mistakes, but that does not invalidate the principle of authority.

  
  Forte's Law of Expert Action and Reaction says "For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert".
  
  

  Quote:However difficult the Voynich manuscript may be to interpret, it is a 15th-century human creation and therefore must have an explanation.

  
  Allow me to remind you of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. 
  
  Whales look and swim like fish, but their biology is completely different.  The VMS looks like a typical Medieval manuscript to the extent that it is a bunch of sheets of vellum with handwriting; but it is very different in almost every other aspect.  I think that asking expert paleographers for their opinions on the VMS is like asking a fish expert for his opinions on whales. 
  
  And, in fact, over the past 100 years, many expert paleographers who set out to study the VMS quickly gave up and left with burned hands...
  
  All the best, --stolfi
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