Davidsch > 05-05-2017, 10:47 AM
coded > 05-05-2017, 11:19 AM
coded > 05-05-2017, 11:27 AM
(05-05-2017, 09:22 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.David,
Friedman and Tiltman looked at this one *very* intensively, in the case of W. Friedman at least four decades.
In any case, it is obvious that the Voynich MS is not the product of an Alberti wheel cipher.
This simply does not generate the word patterns from a text that doesn't have them in the first place.
Worse, like other poly-alphabetic ciphers, it causes the same plain text word type to be translated into different cipher text words, depending on where they occur in the text. It flattens out the Zipf curve.
coded > 05-05-2017, 11:32 AM
(05-05-2017, 08:25 AM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Stellar man... in your video you show off your books, one says that the VM is in Latin, the other in Middle English and the third in Welsh, and you don't see a problem with that?
Also, the Venus Flytrap is an American plant.
There's two problems with your current cipher.
- You seem to think that a cipher being complex will make it more likely. The exact opposite is true. The Voynich is a very large text, several orders of magnitude longer than any other enciphered medieval message. Hence, the more complex a cipher becomes, the smaller the likelihood of its having been used. Given the size of the Voynich, we must almost expect that someone could read it like a plain text without needing any method of deciphering.
- By assigning most Voynich glyphs to several letters on your wheel, you turn it into a one-way cipher.
Koen G > 05-05-2017, 12:16 PM
coded > 05-05-2017, 12:27 PM
(05-05-2017, 12:16 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, it's one way. The encoding will always be the same but the decoding is impossible because you get many options. So just like with your previous cipher, you have turned this into a one-way cipher which will allow you to read whatever you want.
Davidsch > 05-05-2017, 01:43 PM
coded > 05-05-2017, 02:05 PM
(05-05-2017, 01:43 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Tom, what you created looks very plausible. Perhaps you could expand the possibilities for the ring a bit, let's say to 16 letters each?
Over and autum.
-JKP- > 05-05-2017, 06:14 PM
coded > 06-05-2017, 03:11 AM