Koen G > 04-05-2017, 10:06 PM
coded > 04-05-2017, 10:16 PM
(04-05-2017, 10:06 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Stellar it's always the same, this is once again an impossible one-way cipher. You take a cipher method, then change it until it allows you to read what you want, and then proclaim that you have solved the Voynich. How many times have you solved it already this last year?
coded > 04-05-2017, 11:13 PM
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nickpelling > 04-05-2017, 11:59 PM
(04-05-2017, 03:33 PM)coded Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-05-2017, 01:52 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.An Alberti cipher is one of the things we can be sure Voynichese is not. In fact, the two are close to opposites in all useful senses.
Hi Nick,
Are you suggesting this statement, because of the carbon dating? This cipher does in fact eliminate a frequency analysis which would indicate this mechanism. Why are they opposites can you explain the vague statement?
coded > 05-05-2017, 12:24 AM
(04-05-2017, 11:59 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Nick there is no time like now(04-05-2017, 03:33 PM)coded Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-05-2017, 01:52 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.An Alberti cipher is one of the things we can be sure Voynichese is not. In fact, the two are close to opposites in all useful senses.
Hi Nick,
Are you suggesting this statement, because of the carbon dating? This cipher does in fact eliminate a frequency analysis which would indicate this mechanism. Why are they opposites can you explain the vague statement?
Using a cipher disk to encipher a plaintext will inevitably produce ciphertext where (a) the letter frequencies are very much the same as each other ("flat"), and (b) where there are no obvious letter-to-letter structures ("unstructured"). Voynichese, by way of comparison, is not flat at all and is also highly structured (and in many different and unexpected ways).
So... no. I'm making this simple and direct statement (a) because it's true, and (b) because you're wasting everyone's time here by posting these claims here.
Quote:Compared to previous ciphers of the time the Alberti Cipher was impossible to break without knowledge of the method. This was because the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the letters was masked and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. - the only known technique for attacking ciphers at that time - was no help.
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