(08-10-2026, 09:29 AM)DG97EEB wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ok.. my apologies.. I understand the issue .. then no, if we are including the rays, there's nothing else I've found...
No worries. There is something more though - it's subtle, but a crucial difference. Notice how both the Taccola sun and the VM sun aren't really suns? That is to say, they are more like rayed medallions with a personification inside. It's not super clear at first glance, because in the VM the double band around the head is much wider and even has text inside. This kind of sun-as-personification is found more often in earlier centuries, that are still more indebted to classical models. And then resurging due to the influence of the Florentine renaissance.
Several (not all) of the VM celestial faces are more like the personification type. They may have hair, a hairband, a chin/neck in three quarter view... They interrupt the idea of the sun disk itself having facial features, which would be the more common late medieval form.
(08-10-2026, 10:57 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As it stands, that explanation does not seem to be based on actual experience with such siphons.Like I said, much in these inventors' books was highly conceptual and wouldn't work in reality. Taccola was not hired by the Emperor, after all

