Yes, it's this thread, I hope you don't mind I posted the same imagery there too to keep things together.
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Regarding the buildings, note that Wellcome Apocalypse 61r has both the 2prong trapezoid tower with matching shape, 1prong cone towers with matching shape, caste wall with merlons and the high arched gate. I'm not arguing this is any existing building, I don't think the buildings in the VM rosette depict actual places. It's generic castle imagery derived from a source that must have some connection or a common ancestor with the Wellcome Apocalypse. Far too many coincidences for an independent evolution and combination of all these elements.
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Regarding the buildings, note that Wellcome Apocalypse 61r has both the 2prong trapezoid tower with matching shape, 1prong cone towers with matching shape, caste wall with merlons and the high arched gate. I'm not arguing this is any existing building, I don't think the buildings in the VM rosette depict actual places. It's generic castle imagery derived from a source that must have some connection or a common ancestor with the Wellcome Apocalypse. Far too many coincidences for an independent evolution and combination of all these elements.
(24-01-2026, 04:51 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.if the Scribe was copying the scene from a book -- like your citation above, or any of the other sources that have been posted -- how could he not understand that the "loop of little circles" was a rosary?Yes, we see such misinterpretations throughout the VM. Why - we just don't know. But it raises doubt on the claim the VM was the product of some highly educated genius. I said it before but looking at the weird interconnected plants that no child would draw like this, I doubt it is simply a lack of life experience or cultural knowledge. More like a lack of basic understanding how the world works.
Maybe he was not a very bright person (and that may be why he became a second-rate Scribe and not a merchant or University professor...)
Maybe he was a 13-year-old boy who did not yet know how to "read" such allegorical paintings.
Maybe he did not know what a rosary was...


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