Elephant in the Room Solution Considerations

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What was the final proposal for the word ydaraishy (EVA)? 
I lost my bearings with messages as long as novels.

   

@ Ruby Novacna. Sorry again for the confusion, partly caused by the font display I had intended to render, not knowing yet how this forum’s software is used for Voynich font displaying. The image of the original "word" is shown above.

I was NOT offering any interpretive proposal for those example words I used. I was using them to show how the visual features of the words as found in the manuscript get lost in transliterations. So, a double-c with a diacritic is transliterated in a way that the double-c visual feature of it is lost.

In the word ydaraiShy, for example, what I would roughly transliterate as c-^-c (let us say, where there are two c’s connected on top with a dash and having a diacritic on top), is rendered as Sh in Eva. Even in v101, 98ayai29, renders c-^-c as just a number 2.

What I have been surprised to see is that some have read the first c and the diacritic as standing for a letter on its own (which is why in Eva we have ended up with S followed by an h which is not even seen as a c, when in the original it is clearly a double-c with a diacritic on top, something that v101 has obviously and correctly acknowledged, giving the entire expression one transliteration as its table number 2 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.), also shown in the image below:

   

So, I was saying that if visuals are lost in the transliteration, the expression ic-^-c (which is in eva iSh and in v101 i2), if it could hypothetically speaking be a Latin abbreviation found in Cappelli for “Iurisconsultus Collegiatus” (if you enter “icc” in Character Input box in Cappelli online here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. also shown in image below) would not even be fetchable as such, since we have lost the visuals in the transliteration. “It is lost in transliteration” (to borrow and modify the expression “lost in translation”).

   

I think the introduction of transliterations for the study of Voynich manuscript, despite other benefits they may had for linguists and statisticians, has not helped us study the VM writings in a way that takes seriously into account their visual characteristics. The studies have been studies of transliterations not of the original text of the manuscript as visually rendered.

I was not in any way suggesting that I think ic-^-c stands for that expansion in Latin. I was using that to illustrate what can be missed when transliterations are used that have lost a sense of the visuals in the original manuscript.