Elephant in the Room Solution Considerations

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If you click "Reply" (NOT "quick reply") you get an area below the composition window where you can upload images to include in the post.

All the best, --stolfi

Aha! I see the upload area now! Thanks much.

@ Jorge_Stolfi, thanks for your understandable and helpful thoughts on the forum software. After posting mine, I realize I could just upload the images to my site and use their urls, but your “reply” solution will be more helpful. Actually I had not even noticed that “reply” button to use (so I just did now and see what your forum software solution works!), and this one is my own bad, so I am just learning the forum software for now.

Regarding that 10:30 or 10:50 confusion also I realized you just meant the hour-hand of the clock and not the minute-hand, so it was my misunderstanding since I thought the two clock hands were meant to fall on each other. In any case, yes 10:30 hour-hand position seems fine of perhaps just 10:00 would do.

Clearly there is an empty space and a line (from the center) on that chart, and the way I see it, the scribe wanted to make sure ‘o’ falls exactly on that 10:00, even if others ended up not being precise, and the choice of ‘o’ is meaningful and not necessarily the beginning of the four (in my view 16) repeated series, separated by the largest “ligature” which can stand for the name of that third circle (from center) information, perhaps for "geomancy" significations, if that is the case, though still speculative.

Even the person on the right trying to say where the east is with his right hand (for this chart only as explained before) is pointing the circle (perhaps the Sun) toward that ‘o’, and it may well be the case, as Antonio Garćia Jimenéz has said, ‘o’ represents the Sun when the letter is used for the purpose of astrological notation. In this chart, it may even have also other geomantic significations.

I am not yet convinced that that ‘o’ does not have any other, basic alphabetical, significance, being also just an ‘o’. I don’t think it has to be either/or, but both/and, the text of the VM using regular “letters” also as astronomical (or perhaps even geomantic), notations, something we do even today when we use alphabet in math or other illustration markings.

I will later post some images related to those I have posted about to make things more accessible visually and will try somehow to add those two-page column letters so that it can help along with the helpful 5-rowed image you kindly provided. I really did not mean to add to your work but was excited about seeing the helpful chart.