13-11-2025, 06:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 13-11-2025, 06:40 PM by Bluetoes101.)
It all gets a bit messy for me as you look forwards, for example Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor (House of Habsburg) was;
Archduke of Austria
1521–1564
King in Germany
1531–1564
Holy Roman Emperor
1558–1564
King of Hungary and Croatia
1526–1564
King of Bohemia
1526–1564
So yeah, I think it's fair to say 1500+ things get hard to stick a pin in "where".
I could not find other reliable examples of the combination of the two parts that make up this crown being used elsewhere, but others might.
Here is an interesting thing I just noticed. I found it fairly late on while researching. It said it was from 1766 on another site and I already had enough "modern" examples.
But I think it may have solved why I couldn't find what happened to the "Ernest I" Archducal hat.. it seems this might be it, just modified in 1766 to look as it does now(?).
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Ducal hat
-around 1400
Official hat of the Dukes of Styria
The Duke's hat did not take on its present compact shape until 1766.
The prongs made of profiled metal strips with a stamped diamond pattern and
quatrefoil motif as well as the bow with crabs date from the time of Duke Ernst the Iron (1377-1424),
father of the later Emperor Frederick III. Instead of the high ermine brim, only the triangles of the prongs
were probably originally lined with fur.
[Edit]
Some info from wiki - The ducal hat (German: Herzogshut) of the Duchy of Styria is a jagged crown made out of silver-gilt.
It was refashioned with pearls and enameled in 1766. It was kept in Vienna until 1790, when the Styrian Estates asked for it to be returned.
In the 19th century, it was refitted again. The ducal hat is about 20.5 cm high, and has a diameter of 20 cm.
It is kept today at the Landesmuseum Joanneum (Joanneum National Museum) in Graz, Styria, Austria.
Archduke of Austria
1521–1564
King in Germany
1531–1564
Holy Roman Emperor
1558–1564
King of Hungary and Croatia
1526–1564
King of Bohemia
1526–1564
So yeah, I think it's fair to say 1500+ things get hard to stick a pin in "where".
I could not find other reliable examples of the combination of the two parts that make up this crown being used elsewhere, but others might.
Here is an interesting thing I just noticed. I found it fairly late on while researching. It said it was from 1766 on another site and I already had enough "modern" examples.
But I think it may have solved why I couldn't find what happened to the "Ernest I" Archducal hat.. it seems this might be it, just modified in 1766 to look as it does now(?).
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Ducal hat
-around 1400
Official hat of the Dukes of Styria
The Duke's hat did not take on its present compact shape until 1766.
The prongs made of profiled metal strips with a stamped diamond pattern and
quatrefoil motif as well as the bow with crabs date from the time of Duke Ernst the Iron (1377-1424),
father of the later Emperor Frederick III. Instead of the high ermine brim, only the triangles of the prongs
were probably originally lined with fur.
[Edit]
Some info from wiki - The ducal hat (German: Herzogshut) of the Duchy of Styria is a jagged crown made out of silver-gilt.
It was refashioned with pearls and enameled in 1766. It was kept in Vienna until 1790, when the Styrian Estates asked for it to be returned.
In the 19th century, it was refitted again. The ducal hat is about 20.5 cm high, and has a diameter of 20 cm.
It is kept today at the Landesmuseum Joanneum (Joanneum National Museum) in Graz, Styria, Austria.