15-07-2025, 10:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-07-2025, 11:35 PM by Bluetoes101.)
While I wouldn't consider the idea well supported, I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand for being wacky due to bees (Johannes Nider example below)
That being said, the images in the manuscript can morph their meaning to support a lot of ideas, I chose a line at random.
I don't think bees have discovered tools yet, but that aside. There was a solution suggesting "olive oil" that could make sense. Personally I like the idea of aliments (in body parts) and cures (liquids etc). Or, maybe they are Angels traveling from the ethereal realm to earth (shown with tubes) with gifts for the pious. For each of the points you could do this most likely, which is why I say "I wouldn't consider the idea well supported". Anyway, welcome to the forum and I thought your idea was more interesting than some others.
Johannes Nider’s Formicarius (1436–1438)
From WIKI.
"The treatise is organized according to the forms and conditions of the lives of ants. The first book focuses on the deeds of good men and women and is organized around the occupations of ants. The second book, dealing with revelations, was based on ants' varied means of locomotion. The third book examines false visions and uses the variable sizes and kinds of ants.
The fourth book deals with the virtues of saints and other holy people, using the stages of an ant's life cycle. The fifth book, on witches, is structured around the colors of ants. Additionally, each of the twelve chapters of each book was based on one of sixty conditions of ants' lives. This complex system of using ants as metaphors for various aspects of Christian belief and practice is only really addressed in the first few lines of each chapter, after which Nider focuses on whatever theme he means to address with almost no further reference to ants."
That being said, the images in the manuscript can morph their meaning to support a lot of ideas, I chose a line at random.
- Many of the female figures might represent bees — particularly worker bees or queens — often depicted immersed in fluid, holding objects (perhaps pollen or tools), or emerging from pipes (perhaps hive entrances).
I don't think bees have discovered tools yet, but that aside. There was a solution suggesting "olive oil" that could make sense. Personally I like the idea of aliments (in body parts) and cures (liquids etc). Or, maybe they are Angels traveling from the ethereal realm to earth (shown with tubes) with gifts for the pious. For each of the points you could do this most likely, which is why I say "I wouldn't consider the idea well supported". Anyway, welcome to the forum and I thought your idea was more interesting than some others.
Johannes Nider’s Formicarius (1436–1438)
From WIKI.
"The treatise is organized according to the forms and conditions of the lives of ants. The first book focuses on the deeds of good men and women and is organized around the occupations of ants. The second book, dealing with revelations, was based on ants' varied means of locomotion. The third book examines false visions and uses the variable sizes and kinds of ants.
The fourth book deals with the virtues of saints and other holy people, using the stages of an ant's life cycle. The fifth book, on witches, is structured around the colors of ants. Additionally, each of the twelve chapters of each book was based on one of sixty conditions of ants' lives. This complex system of using ants as metaphors for various aspects of Christian belief and practice is only really addressed in the first few lines of each chapter, after which Nider focuses on whatever theme he means to address with almost no further reference to ants."
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