(15-07-2025, 02:38 PM)えすじーけけ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@oshfdk
Thank you for pointing that out — I realize now that my wording was unclear.
I didn’t mean the bees’ visual world (like UV sensitivity), but rather a visual system shaped by what bees care about behaviorally — such as nectar locations, root structure, or access paths.
I can't understand how a bee (nor a beekeeper) could be interested in the root structure of plants, which play no part whatsoever in a bee's life. I'd rather expect to find hornets mentioned, which bees (and beekeepers) care very much about behaviourally.
(15-07-2025, 02:38 PM)えすじーけけ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For example, in one page that shows a flower resembling a sunflower, the bottom part of the image seems to show what might be the underside of the flower. Since bees often crawl into flowers like sunflowers to reach nectar, I thought perhaps the scribe considered the underside to be the most important part from a bee’s perspective — and connected it visually below the rest of the flower to reflect that idea.
Then the beekeeper scribe never saw a bee feeding on, say, a daisy or any similar flower (ofc there were no sunflowers in the Old World at least until 1492). Bees just land on the flower from the top, they don't care about the underside.
(15-07-2025, 02:38 PM)えすじーけけ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As you said, the bee dance was probably not understood in the 15th century. But I noticed that in the astronomical pages, the women are veiled or robed, and it made me wonder whether the scribe may have been exploring a possible connection between celestial cycles and queen-bee traits or lifecycles. That kind of thinking — linking animals to the stars — was not unusual in the Middle Ages.
I'm just exploring possibilities at this point. Thanks again for engaging with the idea!
All in all, it's a suggestive hypothesis, even cool I daresay. But I fear it's quite improbable, and seriously lacking on evidence at this point.

