(27-06-2025, 01:15 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-06-2025, 12:18 PM)Mauro wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But I also agree with @Jorge_Stolfi here: n-grams entropies do not necessarily mean much because they are heavily dependent on the transcription. Word entropies are more reliable (they only depend on 'space' being actually a 'space', and on differently written words being actually different words).
I don't agree with Stolfi's dismissal of letter-based statistics. We don't know if Voynichese is a phonetic representation at all. Whatever it is, is very much dependent on its writing system. So to get a clue about what's going on, we must compare different ways of transliterating Voynichese to different writing systems. Including codes and ciphers, which are essentially also writing systems.
What I do vehemently agree with is that people must be more aware that Voynichese =/= EVA. When running letter-based tests, there must always be awareness of the choices made and their effects.
It was in this post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. where I noticed the bump of the Voynich (EVA and CUVA) comparing to natural languages. That's why I kept pushing this thread and verified different ciphers.
By the way, I corrected this post for clarity.