Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread
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(30-09-2024, 01:21 AM)Aga Tentakulus wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I exclude the western part of northern Italy on the basis of the dialect (Welsh German) and the crown (Habsburg /Zacken) and not Italy (Kleeblatt).
That's how I see it. And now you need serious reasons to consider another region.
My theory is not built on flowers, nor on castles and the shapes of merlons, but rather on the language which is definitely not German, nor Latin. I do not need any reason to consider another region, because the author I have in mind, could have been influenced by the Swabian language and culture, being a native of Strasbourg. The northern Italian fashion was also characteristic of some Slovenian regions. 
If your line implies the border between Alpine region of Slovenia and the Pannonian Plains, this does not correspond with the natural geographical location, nor with historical political divisions, which did not just move the borders, but also create islands of different feudal estates. The green colour on the map does not mean that there were no mountain passes east of your line. Before the tunnel was built in Trojane, there was a mountain pass  with significant historical name, and there was no way around. Many crusaders took that road, as did Roman soldiers centuries before them.
As I said, the language is the most reliable clue and comparing it to the present day Ladin is even worse than to compare it to the present day Slovenian. The language is a living, changeable thing. Did you know that Slovenian was also spoken in Carinthia, Southern Tyrol and Northern Italy in the 15th century.  Canadian linguist Tom Priestly spend several decades studying how Slovenian language was changing over time in the Austrian village of Sela valley. When in the 16th century, first Slovenian books were printed, one third of them were distributed among Carinthians Slovenians, which means that they were able to read and understand the Dolenjska dialect, since the first Slovenian printed books were written in Dolenjska dialect.  As a matter of fact, the only copy of the first Slovenian translation of the Bible was preserved in the Sela in Austria, while other copies were confiscated and burned.  Sela are still the largest Slovenian speaking region in Austria, but the Slovenian minority there is gradually dying out. 
The spread of Protestantism in the 16th century would not have been so swift among Slovenians in Catholic Austria, if people were not conditioned and prepared for the Church reform and different interpretation of the Bible. 
The illustrations in the Voynich Manuscript are much different than the Catholic religious art at the time, which is good indicator that the author had a different view.
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RE: Cvetka's Theory Thread - by tavie - 03-12-2025, 01:11 PM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Typpi - 06-02-2026, 10:48 AM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Rafal - 10-07-2026, 01:52 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by Koen G - 26-08-2021, 07:59 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 04:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 28-08-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 28-08-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by MarcoP - 29-08-2021, 09:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 05:02 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 06-10-2021, 01:08 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 19-06-2023, 09:55 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 07:18 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 08:59 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 04:24 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 05:38 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 21-06-2024, 10:04 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 20-07-2024, 12:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 20-07-2024, 01:57 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 20-07-2024, 03:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 02:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 21-07-2024, 03:45 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 21-07-2024, 05:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 10:25 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 26-09-2024, 05:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 04:13 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 09:44 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 10:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 10:32 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 01-10-2024, 04:02 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 01-10-2024, 08:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by bt2901 - 04-02-2025, 11:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 04-02-2025, 01:31 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by VoyBear - 24-03-2025, 04:51 PM

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