Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread
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(20-07-2024, 01:57 PM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It will not be possible to map words between the MS test and the proposed language with any consistency at all, because of all the known statistics, be they bigrams or trigrams, or be it entropy. Of course, these are closely related to each other.
I have shown just the most simple words that can practically be transliterated and transcribed in Latin alphabet and read as such in Slovenian language. There are not that many words that can be read that easy, because another transcription alphabet would be needed to transcribe words into Slovenian as they were spelled in the middle Ages. That is a tricky one, since three main writing convention (Italian, German and Hungarian) were used, therefore, the Slovenian word in one dictionary would be spelled at least three different ways. Besides, early Slovenian writers also used their writing style which was not always in line with 'official' medieval Slovenian writing, proposed by first linguist in the 16th century. 
Although there was no consistent spelling, there are consistent grammatical pattern in the Voynich Manuscript, which are consistent with the transition of the Old Church Slavonic to Slovenian language. Although there is not a single document where I could find a paragraph that would be matched exactly to the Latin transcription, the sheer volume of the recognizable words, the strings of vowels, the strings of consonants, and other features of the language that Currier claimed it couldn't have existed, are present in Slovenian language and could easy be compared to the Voynich Manuscript. 
There are also many ambiguous word, as indicated in the ZL transliteration. Slovenian transliteration alphabet that includes many initial b letters, letters u, z and various reading of final minims increased the ambiguity. The effort of German and Slavic linguist to figure out the language of 10 numerals from 12th century, found as paginations in the manuscript in Heiligecreuz, is a good example how complicated the earliest Slovenian writing in Latin was. It was just recently confirmed that the numerals were written in Slovenian.

I have purposely chosen these simple words related to DAM to give readers some idea how the highly inflectional language works. I will tackle other concerns the researchers have raised in my future posts. 

Unlike the Turkish team, I will not be offended by criticism, and I am not working on this project to gain  fame and glory. Because of my limited computer skills, I still did not learn how to calculate entropy, but Luke Lindeman who tested my first transliteration with SLO-VA (without any adjustments) told me the result was best so far, but still not good enough. This is understandable, because plenty of adjustments have to be done. I did not want to do the adjustments based on my knowledge and intuition, because I knew I would not be believed. I had to search for the grammar books where the grammar rules for such corrections are explained.
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RE: Cvetka's Theory Thread - by tavie - 03-12-2025, 01:11 PM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Typpi - 06-02-2026, 10:48 AM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Rafal - 10-07-2026, 01:52 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by Koen G - 26-08-2021, 07:59 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 04:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 28-08-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 28-08-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by MarcoP - 29-08-2021, 09:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 05:02 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 06-10-2021, 01:08 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 19-06-2023, 09:55 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 07:18 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 08:59 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 04:24 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 05:38 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 21-06-2024, 10:04 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 20-07-2024, 12:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 20-07-2024, 01:57 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 20-07-2024, 03:22 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 20-07-2024, 03:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 02:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 21-07-2024, 03:45 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 21-07-2024, 05:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 10:25 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 26-09-2024, 05:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 04:13 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 09:44 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 10:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 10:32 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 01-10-2024, 08:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by bt2901 - 04-02-2025, 11:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 04-02-2025, 01:31 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by VoyBear - 24-03-2025, 04:51 PM

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